Bears get Mack

[gbgary]

the defense would be MUCH better with him. the Rodgers window is a short-term thing. his extension is the reason you sign mack. to win a super bowl in the short term while Rodgers is here. nothing else matters at this point.

[Carolina_Packer]

the defense would be MUCH better with him. the Rodgers window is a short-term thing. his extension is the reason you sign mack. to win a super bowl in the short term while Rodgers is here. nothing else matters at this point.

You're right, they would be much better with him. Agree 100%. That said, there was already talk about what Rodgers recent extension is going to do for the team's ability to manage the salary cap. Assuming McKenzie was fine with what the Packers had to offer. Now, you've got the highest paid offensive and defensive player under your cap. How much of a percentage of the cap is that? Of course, you're always hurting on Sundays if your best players lose playing time, but now it affects them in the off-season when it comes to extending/signing other players. On one hand, it's more flexible to be a team with a QB on a rookie deal as far as signing other guys...load it up, Seattle style. The Bears still don't know what they have in Trubisky, so some of Mack's fate is in the rookie's hands. If he fails, Mack fails, and they are back to square one with a pricey free agent LB.

Looks good on you, though!

[pbmax]

Michael Gehlken @GehlkenNFL
Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie said team ruled out Mack suitors whom it projected to hold high draft pick in 2019. Rams were one.

[Zool]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...t-khalil-mack/

“We offered a pretty aggressive package and they came back and said, ‘We just think you’re going to pick too low,'” Demoff said.

Could just be smoke and mirrors, but that's a lot of reports saying the same thing.

[Cheesehead Craig]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...t-khalil-mack/

“We offered a pretty aggressive package and they came back and said, ‘We just think you’re going to pick too low,'” Demoff said.

Could just be smoke and mirrors, but that's a lot of reports saying the same thing.

That can't be right. I mean, the Packers don't want to win and are too scared to make a move like this. That's the only explanation.

[hoosier]

Michael Gehlken @GehlkenNFL
Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie said team ruled out Mack suitors whom it projected to hold high draft pick in 2019. Rams were one.

What's that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?

[woodbuck27]

Beat writers getting flack about why Packers didn't get him.

Packer Report replies back:

Packer Report @PackerReport
For the millionth time today, which team's picks would you want if you're Oakland: GB's or Chicago's?

Really.

[woodbuck27]

I look at this as a big setback for the Oakland Raiders and any player development policy...ahh no policy.

Something has to give in Oakland ( arn't they moving? ) soon or they'll closely resemble that NFL Franchise that simply cannot get it together, the Cleveland Browns.

At least a franchise that's been trying to resemble the Browns or da Bears are trying but bleeding away Top Draft Picks is going to hurt. It has to start in the Draft and luck and adding FA's as necessary to be in the Real Game or Super Bowl bound.

[pbmax]

What's that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?

Wouldn't be the first time.

[KYPack]

Wouldn't be the first time.

This thing is full of many strange connotations.

[bobblehead]

If I were coach I would double team mack and run it right at him every play he is in for the first half. Wear that fucker down to the nubs.

Of course I'm not the coach, MM is which means empty back field with Jimmy Graham lined up to pass block mack one on one then being confused why ARod suffered a concussion in week 1.

[denverYooper]

Michael Gehlken @GehlkenNFL
Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie said team ruled out Mack suitors whom it projected to hold high draft pick in 2019. Rams were one.

With Mack, they had to figure the Packers would likely be picking at 32 for the next 2 years.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Two firsts and a massive contract might not be worth it. Alexander and Jackson look like home runs. If you nail both firsts next season that could have a better short-term and long-term impact. Plus the money saved might be needed with Rodgers new contract. Rodgers could stay play another 5-7 years.

[wthigoot]

List of NFL players who have been traded for two first round draft picks. While I don't have time to look up what those picks turned into, I count one trade that actually transformed the team giving up the draft picks (Jim "Chris" Everett) and several that backfired in a major way. With the exception of Fredd Young (and Cornelius Bennett, who doesn't count because he hadn't yet played in the NFL), traded players have all been on the offensive side of the ball. Can a 27-year old defensive lineman/linebacker be expected to hold up better than, say, a 27-year old running back (Dickerson)?

Jim Everett: Houston to Rams (1986)
Eric Dickerson: Rams to Colts (1987)*
Fredd Young: Seahawks to Colts (1988)
Hershel Walker: Dallas to Vikings for three first-rounders (1989)
Jeff George: Colts to Atlanta (1994)
Keyshawn Johnson: Jets to Tampa (2000)
Ricky Williams: Saints to Phins (2002)
Jay Cutler: Broncos to Bears (2009)


* This was a weird one pulled off by a young Jim Irsay. First he traded the recently drafted Cornelius Bennett (who had yet to sign with Indy) to Buffalo for Greg Bell, two first rounders (1988 and '89) and a 1988 second round pick. Colts then sent all three Buffalo draft picks plus their own 1988 first and second round picks and 1989 second rounder and Owen Gill in exchange for Dickerson. That's three first round and three second round picks. The Colts were never the same again, and Irsay got an early start on his drug-addled imitation of a general manager. The next year he would trade two additional first rounders for Fredd Young, a pro bowl linebacker who had been displaced by Brian Bosworth. The ghost of George Allen would seem to get around.

On the one hand, there is John Hadl (1974) who fits here, but might be before the window you were looking at. Oof.

On the other hand I think I would have given the 2 1's for Mack though.

#31 and #32 get you only to #12 or so; need #19 and #20 to get into top 5. Mack would be worth it.

[pbmax]

Nice breakdown from multiple agents perspective on Mack deal.

http://www.optimumscouting.com/news/three-takeaways-from-nfl-agents-on-the-khalil-mack