Week 1 Other Games

[Bretsky]

Ok I am not kidding about my FF team now. Why in the hell do you remove Jones in the red zone? Even with a score there you make your job SO much tougher.

QUIZ FOR PB

WHAT HAVE THE RESULTS BEEN ON THE LAST 20 PASSES FROM MATT RYAN TO JULIO JONES IN THE END ZONE ?

[Guiness]

I don’t get the confusion on that QB sack. If the defender wanted to, they can put a knee in the turf or roll off when falling with QB wrapped up. It’s obvious to me and I think each time it’s been called this year that I have seen it’s been right.

If you have ever tackled anyone and they give themselves up, you know exactly what is happening.

So many thoughts here...

If they're going to go with that type of a rule, they need make the old 'grasp and control' call a point of emphasis, but go back to the old rule that didn't include 'safety and jeopardy'.

5. Officials are to blow the play dead as soon as the quarterback is clearly in the grasp and control of any tackler, and his safety is in jeopardy.

If they can't actually be tackled, just put the damn red shirt on them.

In the era of $30million/year QBs, understandable why ownership wants more protection for them.

[George Cumby]

Marty Ice isn’t.

[Cheesehead Craig]

QUIZ FOR PB

WHAT HAVE THE RESULTS BEEN ON THE LAST 20 PASSES FROM MATT RYAN TO JULIO JONES IN THE END ZONE ?

1 for 20. No TDs

[pbmax]

I haven't followed the Wilson protection story, so just responding to the evolution of offense theme. One big change between the 3 yds + dust era and now is the role played by TV contracts. Why, starting in 1978, did rule changes begin to favor passing offense and render the conservative offenses obsolete? What is driving the bus here, it seems to me, is marketing awareness: high octane offense appeals to the casual fan who watches games from the sofa. And let's not forget that in the past these changes have been cyclical and pendulum like. The Rams in the 1950s were the Greatest Show on Turf before there was turf. But TV is the 500 lb. gorilla that dictates we're never going back to three yard and dust.

I think the rules, the intrinsic value of passing and the external value of marketing and TV explain how QBs are treated publicly.

But I don't see such a direct connection to coaches and their offense. So while there are good football reasons for passing, the choice of offense seems to me to be a function of familiarity and expectation. Same reasons everyone ran the ball in the 70s.

But you mentioned the high flying offenses of the 50s and early 60s (AFC) which suggested something to me. I suspect a Lombardi effect was in effect through the 70s and influenced a lot of thinking about football and offense for a long time. And it took two other coaching trees (Gillman and Brown/Walsh) plus rules changes to alter than mindset throughout the League.

Maybe running an offense with a mobile and not overly arm talented QB needs its Lombardi. It wasn't quite Chip Kelly, though he had his moments through his second year. But his influence and the influence of college offenses that better use a wider variety of QBs, is seen everywhere in the NFL now. So even without the schematic Lombardi, the pieces are being put in place. Might be up to the GMs to catch up.

[pbmax]

QUIZ FOR PB

WHAT HAVE THE RESULTS BEEN ON THE LAST 20 PASSES FROM MATT RYAN TO JULIO JONES IN THE END ZONE ?

No idea. Probably bad. But it seems a design problem. That offense looked worse than Green Bay's red zone problem of a few years ago. You have Freeman and Jones and Coleman and can't manufacture space to throw a completed pass except behind the LOS. Poor design.

That Jumbo formation is tailor made to lower your scoring total unless you can pass out of it. And given their TEs, it doesn't look like they want to do that.

[QBME]

1 for 20. No TDs

Bingo!!

[esoxx]

Saints getting rolled by woeful Bucs on their home field with backup QB Ryan Fitzpatrick at the helm.

Top 5 1st round pick here we come!

[esoxx]

Damerious Randall already with a pick for the Browns.

[Joemailman]

Bengals safety Shawn Williams first player to be ejected for helmet hit. Helmet to helmet with Andrew Luck. Luck had taken off running and was being tackled by another player when Williams dove in head first.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Damerious Randall already with a pick for the Browns.

yes but the cancer, the cancer

[Rastak]

Bengals safety Shawn Williams first player to be ejected for helmet hit. Helmet to helmet with Andrew Luck.

Didn’t seem that bad to me.

[Rastak]

How about the great game Peterman is having for the Bills? Aye yi yi...

[Rastak]

Good for the Brownies tying up the game.

[red]

crapopolo=suck

i love how it actually looks like the queens are playing outside. its so nice and bright in there, you'd never know it was in a dome

great design