More Banjo: Week 1 versus Bears

[pbmax]

This is the only place I've seen it mentioned.

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/09/08/1-53-ranking-green-bay-packers-roster-changes-plentiful/1226236002/

8. MIKE DANIELS, DE

Once one of the top two or three players on defense, Daniels slipped some last year. He played in 60 percent of the snaps and finished with five sacks, six quarterback hits and three pressures. A former member of the organization said last year Daniels wouldn’t come out of the game when told, took chances that screwed up the scheme and was getting harder to control. He had a quiet camp due to a thigh injury, but one of the few practices where he was allowed to turn it loose, he dominated pass-rushing drills. Wilkerson, a New Jersey native like Daniels, may be able to convince his new teammate that there’s glory in sacrificing yourself so someone else can get to the quarterback. Daniels has all the talent in the world, he just needs to harness it.

That sounds like Trgovac, but if Daniels is the 4th best player on D, I'd like to know where they are hiding the first three.

Clark might be that guy this year, but he wasn't last year.

[Fritz]

Packer Report @PackerReport
McCarthy said secondary played very well; Brice had highest grade on that side of the ball.

SOMEONE GIVE HARVEY A PAT ON THE HEAD

Packer Report @PackerReport
Had the Bears scored a touchdown to start the second half, MM says he probably would have played Rodgers anyway - 24-0 or 20-0, "what's the difference?"

I THOUGHT THE POINCARÉ CONJECTURE SOLVED THIS?

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
McCarthy said he didn't make any big changes on blocking Khalil Mack. Said the changes were more about handling things that were going on inside.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
McCarthy said he has a lot of regrets about calling the screen pass with Kizer late in the half. In hindsight, he would have run the ball "and got out of there." McCarthy said "that's the call that kept me up last night." #Packers

ALL WE WANT IS AN APOLOGY.

AND SOME SUFFERING.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
McCarthy said Trevor Davis showed up to the facility with hamstring pain over the weekend. He did a pregame workout Sunday and wasn't able to go. #Packers

NEW THEORY: TACO BELL RUN LATE FRIDAY NIGHT, BAD STEP OFF CURB. ALWAYS ORDER IN DRIVE THRU TREVOR!

If you look at that replay, though, it was the execution of the play, not the call, that was the problem. Montgomery was there with three blockers in front of him; it's just that Kizer was getting hit and could not get the ball there or did not see Mack.

Sure, you probably ought to have gone into the lockerroom as was. On the other hand, you want to send a message to your team that you do in fact have confidence in the QB - and normally, a screen pass is a bit of a confidence-builder. But the blocking and execution was just off. Sure, you don't want to block too much, you want some penetration, but you have to at least slow down your guy.

I would like MM to stay awake at night because he's trying to figure out why his team came out of the gate a half step - hell, a full step - behind the Bears. Mr. Offensive Genius had a raggedy-ass-looking offense until he was forced to adjust his play-calling in the second half due to Rodgers's injury.

[Patler]

Link or source?

Nah. Somewhere in the junk I read from time to time. I have no desire or interest in spending one second trying to find it now.

[Pugger]

If you look at that replay, though, it was the execution of the play, not the call, that was the problem. Montgomery was there with three blockers in front of him; it's just that Kizer was getting hit and could not get the ball there or did not see Mack.

Sure, you probably ought to have gone into the lockerroom as was. On the other hand, you want to send a message to your team that you do in fact have confidence in the QB - and normally, a screen pass is a bit of a confidence-builder. But the blocking and execution was just off. Sure, you don't want to block too much, you want some penetration, but you have to at least slow down your guy.

I would like MM to stay awake at night because he's trying to figure out why his team came out of the gate a half step - hell, a full step - behind the Bears. Mr. Offensive Genius had a raggedy-ass-looking offense until he was forced to adjust his play-calling in the second half due to Rodgers's injury.

This isn't the first season where MM's teams come out of the gate slow.

[pbmax]

If you look at that replay, though, it was the execution of the play, not the call, that was the problem. Montgomery was there with three blockers in front of him; it's just that Kizer was getting hit and could not get the ball there or did not see Mack.

Sure, you probably ought to have gone into the lockerroom as was. On the other hand, you want to send a message to your team that you do in fact have confidence in the QB - and normally, a screen pass is a bit of a confidence-builder. But the blocking and execution was just off. Sure, you don't want to block too much, you want some penetration, but you have to at least slow down your guy.

I would like MM to stay awake at night because he's trying to figure out why his team came out of the gate a half step - hell, a full step - behind the Bears. Mr. Offensive Genius had a raggedy-ass-looking offense until he was forced to adjust his play-calling in the second half due to Rodgers's injury.

It just wasn't a situation that was going to end well even if things were running well with a backup QB. Had a long way to go on 2nd and 19 with 56 seconds left. Time to reset.

I think M3 and Rodgers both adjusted. Its a two way street and both sides of the highway are trying to throw deep.

#metaphor failure, system fault

[Patler]

I don't have a problem with the play call. I wouldn't necessarily be going all out trying to score in the last minute of the half, but I would try to run some legitimate plays, hopefully successfully, to give Kizer (and the offense as a whole) some success to build on. Taking a knee does nothing to give him confidence. A couple safe passes gaining a few yards could build his confidence.

Being scared to run real plays for fear of failure is like using your starters for about 10 plays in preseason for fear of injury. It might protect against the undesirable result, but it does nothing to prepare the team.

MM "plays it safe" more than I would like as it is.

[Tony Oday]

I feel like since they took away AR's legs he became A LOT more decisive and the offense were predators in the 2nd half.

[MadScientist]

I feel like since they took away AR's legs he became A LOT more decisive and the offense were predators in the 2nd half.

It started looking like a west coast offense. Quick read the progressions and get the ball out to stymie the rush and just move the chains. A couple of long throws thrown in to keep the defense honest, and let the receivers get YAC (and did they ever). For the most part, and by necessity, Rodgers 'Wait for a second receiver pattern to open up and get a big gain" was ditched. The whole offense was a lot more effective that way. Now if only MM, and to some extent Rodgers, would notice.

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This isn't the first season where MM's teams come out of the gate slow.

gotta play the starters in pre season

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I feel like since they took away AR's legs he became A LOT more decisive and the offense were predators in the 2nd half.

evryone likes to talk about how good a-rod is at extending plays

but maybe, just maybe. he would be much better if he just stood in the pocket and got the ball out quick, instead of looking for the long TD and thinking about escape routes

as he gets older, its something we HAVE to implement. and in that case we also have to completely change the blocking scheme imo

last night was not the first time we've seen the offense go into that type of scheme and have it work really well. stubby and a-rod just need to stick to it, and get away from that other shit they always go back to

[mraynrand]

^^^ Have to rely on the line. It might be that they got better in the second half because the defenders, in the first game of the season, were kinda gassed. I saw several plays in the fourth quarter where Bear lineman were just standing there. They looked spent.

[Teamcheez1]

Despite what half the whiners say on this forum, our O Line is not half bad. We don't have road grade maulers, but when they are on, they work as a pretty cohesive group.
Bulaga needed some time to get his feet under him and unfortunately it was against Mack in the first game. Mack will not have the impact he had last night on the second go round.
The communication and switching was off, and that favors a good defense like the Bears.
If Rodgers is healthy, we win going away at Soldier Field.

[red]

Despite what half the whiners say on this forum, our O Line is not half bad. We don't have road grade maulers, but when they are on, they work as a pretty cohesive group.
Bulaga needed some time to get his feet under him and unfortunately it was against Mack in the first game. Mack will not have the impact he had last night on the second go round.
The communication and switching was off, and that favors a good defense like the Bears.
If Rodgers is healthy, we win going away at Soldier Field.

scary thing is mack also missed all of training camp and pre season, so he's also just getting his legs back

the o-line play comes down to, do you think a-rod is suppose to be running around like a chicken with its head cut off by design, or does he do it because he has to? i have no doubt that rodgers makes the line look much better then it really is by his ability to get away. but at times he also makes it look worse by holding the ball forever

we kinda got the chicken or the egg thing going on

i would for oncelove to see the o-line actually make a pocket and stand their ground. not just, retreat, don't engage, retreat, don't engage, retreat some more and hope you don't back into the QB

[mraynrand]

Despite what half the whiners say on this forum, our O Line is not half bad. We don't have road grade maulers, but when they are on, they work as a pretty cohesive group.
Bulaga needed some time to get his feet under him and unfortunately it was against Mack in the first game. Mack will not have the impact he had last night on the second go round.
The communication and switching was off, and that favors a good defense like the Bears.
If Rodgers is healthy, we win going away at Soldier Field.

They were drafted to pass protect - agile guys with good feet mostly. Well, then there's McCray - but you can;'t have everything. The no-show pick from out west also has great feet, but so-so anchor. It's a passing league and you have the best passer in Rodgers, so it makes sense. Hope that line can block close to as well next week as quarters 3 and 4 last night. Might win the game.

[pbmax]

McCray is in his first year as a full time starter. He doesn't have a lot of live fire time with Linsley. Had to affect the interior, which is what McCarthy said they adjusted at halftime. Lotta pressure on Rodgers up the gut.

Bulaga and Mack may have both missed preseason, but Bulaga, in number of starts, is an old fogey coming off injury with a pretty hurried timeline. He's just over nine months now, isn't he? Mack is younger and healthier. Might have been better for the Packer if Week 1 had been 88º and humid during a day game, would have tired out the Bears D faster.

Rodgers gets a lot of time to throw normally, though since Lang that has been in more flux. I really thought they would call Evans at halftime. Rodgers escape artistry comes from learning how to escape the free rusher (Atlanta playoff) and the extended offense. I think he and McCarthy have become too reliant on it because of its success.