REALITY BITES--BEYOND THE QB---GREEN BAY VS the VIQUEENS---KUDOS TO RICK SPIELMAN

[bobblehead]

i listened for about 5 minutes. but i don't disagree with him thats theres a lot more talent on the vikings. we just have a much, much,much better QB, that give us a chance to beat them

Give me 8 weeks to see Pettines D vs. Zimmers D. I think Capers has been a huge problem for a long time and I think MM has as well (but much less so). If our D looks like the Vikings D come week 8 then I will say they aren't all that much more talented than our group just better coached than we have been in the past.

[Pugger]

There’s definitely better players on MN, but you’re clearly not paying attention if you think the o-lines are even close.

This all day long. Our tackles are light-years better than theirs and that is huge. Our defensive strength is our D line so I hope we can take advantage of this.

[yetisnowman]

Vikings have done a nice job building a roster. The core of their defense: Richardson, Barr, Wayne, Rhodes, Harrison are #13, 9, 11, 25, and 29 picks overall. There are levels of picks in the draft that the Packers don't routinely see, but they also hit on some good guys and gems in 2-5 (Griffen, Kendricks, Hunter, McKinnon). They also had high profile misses or disappointments like Ponder, Patterson, Floyd, Bridgewater (everyone has guys who get injured and never fulfill their promise).

Kind of a misleading way to phrase it. Of the 5 core guys you mentioned the 2 all pros Rhodes and Smith were 25th and 29th picks. And Richardson was drafted by another team and signed as a free agent. Take away their 2 top 10 picks and they still have a superior roster. They have done a better job drafting and assembling a team.

[Zool]

Kind of a misleading way to phrase it. Of the 5 core guys you mentioned the 2 all pros Rhodes and Smith were 25th and 29th picks. And Richardson was drafted by another team and signed as a free agent. Take away their 2 top 10 picks and they still have a superior roster. They have done a better job drafting and assembling a team.

As they did for the 1998 season, and even the 2009 season. The last time they went back to back in NFC title games was the mid 70s. This year won’t be different.

[mraynrand]

Kind of a misleading way to phrase it. Of the 5 core guys you mentioned the 2 all pros Rhodes and Smith were 25th and 29th picks. And Richardson was drafted by another team and signed as a free agent. Take away their 2 top 10 picks and they still have a superior roster. They have done a better job drafting and assembling a team.

I was specifically trying to mislead you.

[pbmax]

Kind of a misleading way to phrase it. Of the 5 core guys you mentioned the 2 all pros Rhodes and Smith were 25th and 29th picks. And Richardson was drafted by another team and signed as a free agent. Take away their 2 top 10 picks and they still have a superior roster. They have done a better job drafting and assembling a team.

I you take away the top 10 picks, the entire Defense plays worse, which affects how you view the other players.

If as Bobble suggests Pettine is able to get long lasting improvement out of the D, everyone's opinion of the younger players goes up.

I don't think its a coincidence that the side of the ball that the head coach is on seems to have better luck drafting for the system.

[bobblehead]

Well the LT's give a slight advantage to GB

But the rest of our OL isn't currently lights out either

Our OL contained their ridiculously better DL than ours. Daniels was held all day. I think we disproved this talent gap today, on a day that our all world QB wasn't that remarkably great.

[bobblehead]

Oh, and to the coaching question. Why was House on the field instead of Jackson when King went down. WTF!

[mraynrand]

Oh, and to the coaching question. Why was House on the field instead of Jackson when King went down. WTF!

That's a great question

[Fritz]

I'm guessing they were worried about the rookie Jackson blowing an assignment and letting, like, a 75-yard touchdown pass get by him.

[mraynrand]

I'm guessing they were worried about the rookie Jackson blowing an assignment and letting, like, a 75-yard touchdown pass get by him.

It could happen

[pbmax]

In good news, we now know why House was on the bench last week.

[Bossman641]

No more house please

[pbmax]

Late word in Banjo thread is that Brice made a bad read and abandoned his position to help House.

[Zool]

Late word in Banjo thread is that Brice made a bad read and abandoned his position to help House.

That was on the replay. He made the wrong guess. Went to cover the other side of the field, no time to recover.