Packer Defense: Half Good or Half Terrible?

[mraynrand]

I haven't re-watched yet, but I thought the reason they played better in the second half was that man coverage in the secondary held up. Generally I think they will have to be successful with man to be consistently good as a defense. That's the only way they can gain an advantage because they have so little natural pass rush talent. Then watch for a huge increase in crossing routes and rubs.

[pbmax]

I haven't re-watched yet, but I thought the reason they played better in the second half was that man coverage in the secondary held up. Generally I think they will have to be successful with man to be consistently good as a defense. That's the only way they can gain an advantage because they have so little natural pass rush talent. Then watch for a huge increase in crossing routes and rubs.

Problem with man is that Gruden, unlike McCarthy who still believes his WR group is the Big Five from 2009-10, will scheme you open.

He picked off the safety and slot corner multiple times that way, including the big Reed catch down the sideline.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Whether the D is half good or half terrible they are somewhere in the middle. So all systems normal. The potential is there for the offense to be dominant. As we've seen throughout the Rodgers era when the O takes the pressure off, the D magically becomes above average. I think the D looks like a typical Packer D.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Still having a lousy pass rush (and getting inane penalties for getting there) isn't helping. I wonder if the inconsistency of these calls our other defenders are not being aggressive enough...?

The pass rush is why I voted half terrible. But I'm still half pissed about yesterday's result so maybe my response was half cocked.

[Carolina_Packer]

I'm going half good for now. If Safety play doesn't improve though, I'll be wrong.

I know that tracking the ball in the air is not easy, but if it's your job, it should be easier than it looks for Brice. I also see HaHa overrun plays a lot, and give up extra yards.

[pbmax]

I know that tracking the ball in the air is not easy, but if it's your job, it should be easier than it looks for Brice. I also see HaHa overrun plays a lot, and give up extra yards.

The other problem is what Charles Davis pointed out (I took Rand's advice and listened to him this time).

Even if Brice cannot pick up the football in the air, he has inside leverage. Need to squeeze the window shut for the throw/catch. Brice looked toward the ball, lost all reference points, and drifted out of the picture. Had he just watched the receiver, he would have been positioned perfectly to make a play.

[red]

how bout same old defense, POOR effort?

how many times do we need to watch haha just stand there and watch someone else make the tackle? clay and perry both running 20 yards behind the LOS to avoid the blocks is not helping the pass rush. it gets no pressure on the QB and leaves 2 massive holes for the QB to step up into. this is an old problem which is still around in the new system

we needed to blow that shit up last off season and get away from the 3-4, we don't have the guys to play it

[pbmax]

Josh Jones Twitter
I just wanna Play and Ball.... please. Is that too much to ask for?

Forget Daniels. Maybe Jones in the doghouse?

[red]

Josh Jones Twitter
I just wanna Play and Ball.... please. Is that too much to ask for?

Forget Daniels. Maybe Jones in the doghouse?

its a little nuts that after the shitshow that brice had yesterday that fat mike already has said he is sticking with him and not giving jones his shot

did he even get on the field yesterday? even on ST?

[Bossman641]

its a little nuts that after the shitshow that brice had yesterday that fat mike already has said he is sticking with him and not giving jones his shot

did he even get on the field yesterday? even on ST?

Thought they said he was inactive. Maybe I'm wrong though

[Joemailman]

Thought they said he was inactive. Maybe I'm wrong though

He was inactive. Think I heard he was a late scratch.

[Bretsky]

When I first saw the poll I expected nearly everybody to vote half good.

Capers was very average. It was silly to pin all the blame on him. We need more players that play like TJ Watt and less that play like Kyle Fackrell (why is he on the team again)

[denverYooper]

Josh Jones Twitter
I just wanna Play and Ball.... please. Is that too much to ask for?

Forget Daniels. Maybe Jones in the doghouse?

He has an ankle.

[pbmax]

He only had about three practices in him. Would have been surprised to see him much. Jones went for the week and played less than 15 snaps

More surprised by him Tweet. But at least he wants to play

[pbmax]

He was inactive. Think I heard he was a late scratch.

Hope he didn't re-injure.