Official Fire Mike McCarthy Thread

[pbmax]

I do use my own eyes and I put that quote from Florio there because I SEE the lack of urgency and resolve in this team game after game year after year.......from a purely objective standpoint the x's and o's are important but sometimes know how to light a fire under someone's ass is more important especially in a game where emotions can take over a game...honestly does this coaching staff take into account how much opposing defenses get up for taking on a guy like Rodgers? I can SEE that when I watch games....and the part about lack of energy was from Rodgers.

I think you are seeing frustration. Perhaps indigestion.

But not lack of fire. Its the oldest complaint in the book and even when correct, doesn't tell us much.

[ptisme]

So everyone wants MM fired... And rightly so... But why isn't Murphy's head on the block??? He's the one who had to be told to move on from Thompson when it was clear he couldn't medically do his job. He's the one who forced McCarthy on his new GM and created some bullsh t hierarchy where the game plan has to go through him and the GM's hands are tied behind his back.. How is it that he stuck his beak into the playbook and has no culpability? The good old boy's network up there is coming home to roost.

[Fritz]

I called for his head in another thread. Let's get this thing rolling!

It's ALL Murphy's fault! It's been going down the tubes, like a turd slowly swirling down a toilet bowl, ever since Murph arrived on the scene.

[Pugger]

Ouch

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/16/mike-mccarthys-reliance-on-the-numbers-underscores-the-extent-of-his-blunder/

on 4th and 2



WTF? so because your 2 best defenders are hurt you decide to let the defense try and get the ball back

and how is it a good situation to get the ball back with 1 timeout and a 2 minute warning?

what fucking numbers? do you know how to use numbers? because i have my doubts you do

the guy is a grade A fucking idiot

I could almost understand why Stubby decided to punt because of where we were on the field. You do that when you have the lead. But we didn't have the damn lead. Plus our defense was banged up with a couple of practice squad DBs running around like chickens with their heads cut off. To ask that depleted defense to stop Wilson and company was asking a hell of a lot. That Seattle game was a must win. Losing that essentially eliminated us from the post season. We now almost have to run the table but with the way we've been playing that ain't happening.

Perhaps losing that game was a blessing in disguise. I can't believe Gute and Murphy will keep Stubby around seeing we'll miss the playoffs again this year. Rodgers isn't getting any younger. How much longer are we gonna squander the remaining years of Rodgers' career with this crap?

[mraynrand]

That Seattle game was a must win.

Not necessarily. Packers have three Divisional games remaining. Those are must wins for sure. Packers probably can't afford another loss, certainly not more than one, but you never know. The best chance for the playoffs now involves winning their Division, except that the second wildcard looks reachable, unless I've forgotten a team. (Carolina almost assuredly is first WC). It's a long season.

[ptisme]

I could almost understand why Stubby decided to punt because of where we were on the field. You do that when you have the lead. But we didn't have the damn lead. Plus our defense was banged up with a couple of practice squad DBs running around like chickens with their heads cut off. To ask that depleted defense to stop Wilson and company was asking a hell of a lot. That Seattle game was a must win. Losing that essentially eliminated us from the post season. We now almost have to run the table but with the way we've been playing that ain't happening.

Perhaps losing that game was a blessing in disguise. I can't believe Gute and Murphy will keep Stubby around seeing we'll miss the playoffs again this year. Rodgers isn't getting any younger. How much longer are we gonna squander the remaining years of Rodgers' career with this crap?

I'd also add the awesome rushing game Seattle was exhibiting and the fact that the defense was exhausted (and injury riddled)... So dumb....

[ptisme]

Not necessarily. Packers have three Divisional games remaining. Those are must wins for sure. Packers probably can't afford another loss, certainly not more than one, but you never know. The best chance for the playoffs now involves winning their Division, except that the second wildcard looks reachable, unless I've forgotten a team. (Carolina almost assuredly is first WC). It's a long season.

So looking forward to a playoff game in New Orleans..............

[mraynrand]

So looking forward to a playoff game in New Orleans..............

Could make that ATL NFCC game look competitive by comparison!

BRING BLACK GUNTER!!

[ptisme]

Mike Pettitine should be given the HC job and hire a good OC to take care of the offense, someone AR actually likes.

I'd rather Pettine stay DC and they hire an OC from someone else like John Defilippo.

[ptisme]

I am not sure its not looking. Jones had two catches for 1 yard each in the second half (not all Jones fault).

This team has NEVER put drives together like the Patriots do and I think Rodgers trust this offense less than ever to do it now.

Which raises the question why did they sign him for a year if not to satisfy Rodgers?

I think they signed him for a year because they thought they were maybe a good draft and a player away.. They felt the new DC would raise the defensive play and with the normally explosive offense maybe go on a championship run... Maybe Murphy trusted MM and his compromise with Gute was a one year extension.

[ptisme]

I do use my own eyes and I put that quote from Florio there because I SEE the lack of urgency and resolve in this team game after game year after year.......from a purely objective standpoint the x's and o's are important but sometimes know how to light a fire under someone's ass is more important especially in a game where emotions can take over a game...honestly does this coaching staff take into account how much opposing defenses get up for taking on a guy like Rodgers? I can SEE that when I watch games....and the part about lack of energy was from Rodgers.

I would add to this that the lack of urgency comes from the VERY TOP of this organization

[pbmax]

I think they signed him for a year because they thought they were maybe a good draft and a player away.. They felt the new DC would raise the defensive play and with the normally explosive offense maybe go on a championship run... Maybe Murphy trusted MM and his compromise with Gute was a one year extension.

But they signed him to an extension mid-year last year. Before the new GM was in place. Who was telling Murphy they were one good draft away from the Super Bowl?

Here is the next fun question: Did McCarthy promise to rework his offense in response to some encouragement to do so? If that is the case, goodbye Mike.

[gbgary]

why isn't Murphy's head on the block??? He's the one who had to be told to move on from Thompson when it was clear he couldn't medically do his job. He's the one who forced McCarthy on his new GM and created some bullsh t hierarchy where the game plan has to go through him and the GM's hands are tied behind his back.. How is it that he stuck his beak into the playbook and has no culpability? The good old boy's network up there is coming home to roost.

because he wasn't part of the football operation until this year. he's set it up for accountability now. got to give it time to see how it works out. the only one not accountable now is Rodgers. the ridiculous extension insured that.

[Bretsky]

I'd rather Pettine stay DC and they hire an OC from someone else like John Defilippo.

WINNER

[Joemailman]

Ouch

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/16/mike-mccarthys-reliance-on-the-numbers-underscores-the-extent-of-his-blunder/

on 4th and 2



WTF? so because your 2 best defenders are hurt you decide to let the defense try and get the ball back

and how is it a good situation to get the ball back with 1 timeout and a 2 minute warning?

what fucking numbers? do you know how to use numbers? because i have my doubts you do

the guy is a grade A fucking idiot

What makes punting on 4th and 2 so bad is that there's not that much risk in it. Even if you don't make it you're still in the game. The reason is you're only down 3 points. If you don't make it you still have a chance to force a 3 and out (which you're counting on if you're punting) and hold them to a field goal. You then still have a chance to win the game with about 2 minutes left.

I too wonder what "numbers" MM was looking at. The numbers that mattered were the Seahawks being the NFL's #1 rushing team and their average in the game of 5 YPC. Somehow despite all that the chances of the defense getting a 3 and out were deemed greater than the chances of the offense gaining 2 yards.

MM is ztarting to remind me of 2005 Sherman when that Mike seemed to make some inexplicable moves as the season fell aparf.