Should the Packers deal for Amari Cooper or Karl Joseph?

[red]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/10/14/should-the-packers-deal-for-amari-cooper-or-karl-joseph/

i know cooper is sucking ass this year because he's on my FF team, but he has been a good player in the past but would have a massive cap number next season (14 million)

karl joseph is a safety who was drafted in the first round just 2 years ago, but hasn't lived up to that potential yet

raiders are trying to trade both of them

maybe send them haha and one of our firsts next year for both of them

[Joemailman]

Do the Packers really another safety drafted in the 1st 2 rounds who hasn't lived up to his potential yet?

[Bretsky]

The Raider we needed is in Chicago

[mraynrand]

The Raider we needed is in Chicago

yup. But Gute couldn't make that move and get rid of Stubby at the end of the season, as planned.

[pbmax]

yup. But Gute couldn't make that move and get rid of Stubby at the end of the season, as planned.

Have you crossed to the dark side now sharpcheddar? http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...l=1#post988927

[mraynrand]

Have you crossed to the dark side now sharpcheddar? http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...l=1#post988927

lol. Maybe not that extreme...

But I'm predicting if the Packers lose tomorrow we'll get a visit from Mr. Blonde.

[ThunderDan]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...r-karl-joseph/

i know cooper is sucking ass this year because he's on my FF team, but he has been a good player in the past but would have a massive cap number next season (14 million)

karl joseph is a safety who was drafted in the first round just 2 years ago, but hasn't lived up to that potential yet

raiders are trying to trade both of them

maybe send them haha and one of our firsts next year for both of them

Don’t give up draft picks for players who are having bad years.

[red]

oh and BTW

anyone who wants amari cooper in FF can offer me up a trade

[Tony Oday]

I would take Amari opposite Davante

[pbmax]

Is Gruden tanking as a coach to leave after one year or to take total control over football operations?

[mraynrand]

Is Gruden tanking as a coach to leave after one year or to take total control over football operations?

I've wondered about this. The articles I saw claimed most of the moves were Gruden's. However, even though he has the long-term contract, I think it's backloaded, per Mike Florio:

https://sportsnaut.com/2018/01/jon-g...evada-tax-law/

“HOW MUCH LESS? ONE LEAGUE SOURCE SAID THAT MY ROUND-NUMBER EXAMPLE OF $25 MILLION OVER THE FIRST FIVE YEARS AND $75 MILLION OVER THE FINAL FIVE YEARS FROM PFT PM ISN’T THAT FAR OFF THE MARK. MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE SOURCE SAYS THE EARLY YEARS ARE MUCH CLOSER TO $5 MILLION ANNUALLY THAN $10 MILLION.”

So they could be taking the long view, the Vegas view (they need to start being good in Vegas), and everything now is to set that up. But the moneyball strategy wore out it's welcome real fast in Cleveland, so he only gets this one bad year. If next year sucks, I bet they let him go. But McKenzie might be gone after this year anyway. I mean, what has he really accomplished - not much at all.

[Bretsky]

oh and BTW

anyone who wants amari cooper in FF can offer me up a trade

I don't want to trade with you Red; we need to keep your full team the same

It seems like you are the only team I can beat....

[KYPack]

Schnike! I had no clue Gru's deal was massive. I think the boy is still lost in a long term time warp. Course, I thought the same thing about Vermiel.

I don't think your deal would bear fruit Redman, but maybe we need to do something a little odd.

Cooper has been a total disappointment this year, tis true.

[George Cumby]

Is Gruden tanking as a coach to leave after one year or to take total control over football operations?

No. He just sucks balls and is behind the times.

[pbmax]

Given what Gruden is doing to Carr I am not sure either will be around for Vegas. Carr apparently has the same backloaded deal.