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I think Davis replaces Brown if Breeland is ready to play. Probably just leave Kumerow on IR. Don't really need him now.I can't run no more
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While the killers in high places
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Don't agree at all. Davis can get you field position the other guys can't. There is risk though, he's not as sure handed.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostCobb is the team’s best returner. Let him continue to return punts when healthy. Cobb got injured in practice, not during a game.
Think Belichick is afraid of putting Edelman out there to return punts?
Edelman doesn't get hurt as often as Cobb.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Originally posted by pbmax View PostDon't agree at all. Davis can get you field position the other guys can't. There is risk though, he's not as sure handed.
Edelman doesn't get hurt as often as Cobb.
This, to me, is a major drawback, in addition to his very poor decision-making when he's backed up around his own ten yard line. To me, his occasional long return does not make up for the ball-handling, decision-making, and injury-getting parts of his game.
I think Monty is doing a fine job on kicks - hasn't he had two long ones called back already? Has he fielded punts at all?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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What Fritz said. Like the great Bob McGinn, Fritz is a Michigan grad. Michigan is the Brown of the Midwest. You don’t wanna fuck with Michigan grads- they’re smart as shit.Originally posted by pbmax View PostDon't agree at all. Davis can get you field position the other guys can't. There is risk though, he's not as sure handed.
Edelman doesn't get hurt as often as Cobb.
No shame in conceding defeat.
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Monty has handled punts in practice I think. No recorded punt returns in games. Not sure about preseason.Originally posted by Fritz View PostThis, to me, is a major drawback, in addition to his very poor decision-making when he's backed up around his own ten yard line. To me, his occasional long return does not make up for the ball-handling, decision-making, and injury-getting parts of his game.
I think Monty is doing a fine job on kicks - hasn't he had two long ones called back already? Has he fielded punts at all?
Packers need more talent on field, though penalties and poor execution have been problems too.
But Monty is averaging 20.3 yard per return. Davis had 22.8 last year. He's a threat to take it far even if he occasionally backs you up. I'd take it at this point. If they didn't think he had a role as returner they probably waive him with a settlement.
But if the hands thing is the concern, then let him have kickoffs and keep Cobb on punts. Catching punts is the adventure with Davis.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Having seen Monty break a couple long kickoff returns (only to have them called back due to the usual dumb holding penalty twenty yards away), I think he offers as much as Davis, with the upside of better hands and smarter decision-making. Turn him loose!"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Unless Crosby is the kicker, kickoffs nowadays are touchback-prone. Davis ain't Hester in his prime. Unwise to keep a so-so player solely to return punts, especially when something like only 2% of punts are returned. Plus, what's the point of having a punt returner when the Packer D can't get off the field on 3rd downs?Originally posted by pbmax View PostMonty has handled punts in practice I think. No recorded punt returns in games. Not sure about preseason.
Packers need more talent on field, though penalties and poor execution have been problems too.
But Monty is averaging 20.3 yard per return. Davis had 22.8 last year. He's a threat to take it far even if he occasionally backs you up. I'd take it at this point. If they didn't think he had a role as returner they probably waive him with a settlement.
But if the hands thing is the concern, then let him have kickoffs and keep Cobb on punts. Catching punts is the adventure with Davis.
A receiving group composing of Adams, Cobb, That Sloth, MVS and Kum doesn't look pretty on paper, especially without Dez. But who knows? As the season grows cold, that group could morph into the next great Fab 5 (yes, that's a Michigan reference).
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They are averaging just over 1 return a game.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostUnless Crosby is the kicker, kickoffs nowadays are touchback-prone. Davis ain't Hester in his prime. Unwise to keep a so-so player solely to return punts, especially when something like only 2% of punts are returned. Plus, what's the point of having a punt returner when the Packer D can't get off the field on 3rd downs?
A receiving group composing of Adams, Cobb, That Sloth, MVS and Kum doesn't look pretty on paper, especially without Dez. But who knows? As the season grows cold, that group could morph into the next great Fab 5 (yes, that's a Michigan reference).
Neither Kumerow or Davis are going to help the D.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Mack could’ve been the savior, but Gute obviously fucked that up. Ain’t nobody on the streets of Baltimore is gonna help the D now.Originally posted by pbmax View PostThey are averaging just over 1 return a game.
Neither Kumerow or Davis are going to help the D.
Offense is gonna need to score a boatload of points per game for the Packers to have any shot at glory. Kum is a better receiver than Davis.
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One writer for the Urinal-Scented tossed out the name Chandler Jones, from the Cardinals, as one person who could help with the pass rush. But it's speculation - no one has said whether he's available. The article suggested he'd cost a second or third, I believe. If he's available. 28 years old, has six sacks."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Rae Carruth is availableOriginally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostA receiving group composing of Adams, Cobb, That Sloth, MVS and Kum doesn't look pretty on paper, especially without Dez. But who knows? As the season grows cold, that group could morph into the next great Fab 5 (yes, that's a Michigan reference)."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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