Before You Dismiss - Just Consider This

[mraynrand]

You got any more riddles?

What makes Stubby heavier, never diminishes, but only after a Packer home loss?

[George Cumby]

Schrodingers Cat.

[run pMc]

Playing the short, quick timing throws game combined with no huddle (or very fast tempo) to move the chains and wear out the D could work. Rodgers has to buy into that and not hold the ball.
The other thing if you want to be aggressive is to never punt outside your own ~40yd line unless it's 4th and 6+...but in our scenario Rodgers would never find himself in that situation, right? :P

[CaptainKickass]

I don't recall the opponent or year, but there was a game sort of recently in which the Cheesesteak/Rodgers led Packers ran the no-huddle/hurry-up offense in an effort to bleed and control the clock and thus win the time of possession.

The other recollection I have about that game is that it looked a whole lot like Holmboy's "West Coast Offense" from the Favre/Hasselhoff years. Lot's of short quick passes, some draw plays and a few timely and well executed screen plays.

I'd love to see something resembling it this Sunday.



*KICKASS KEY (FOR THOSE WHO PAY NO ATTENTION):
Holmboy = Holmgren
Hasselhoff = Hasselbeck
Cheesesteak = McCarthy

[Rutnstrut]

I don't recall the opponent or year, but there was a game sort of recently in which the Cheesesteak/Rodgers led Packers ran the no-huddle/hurry-up offense in an effort to bleed and control the clock and thus win the time of possession.

The other recollection I have about that game is that it looked a whole lot like Holmboy's "West Coast Offense" from the Favre/Hasselhoff years. Lot's of short quick passes, some draw plays and a few timely and well executed screen plays.

I'd love to see something resembling it this Sunday.



*KICKASS KEY (FOR THOSE WHO PAY NO ATTENTION):
Holmboy = Holmgren
Hasselhoff = Hasselbeck
Cheesesteak = McCarthy

Don't hold your breath. Cheesesteak has to win by the big passing play.

[mraynrand]

Don't hold your breath. Cheesesteak has to win by the big passing play.

dismissed!

[pbmax]

What makes Stubby heavier, never diminishes, but only after a Packer home loss?

Golden Corral in DePere.

[Pugger]

sacks count vs passing yards...also when he passes up an open underneath guy for a long ball the percentage goes down.

God, I wish he wouldn't do that.

[mraynrand]

Golden Corral Buffet in DePere.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner (with gravy and biscuits, plus seconds).

[Fritz]

I'm so confused. We're bitching constantly about MM not using his second-best offensive weapon in Aaron Jones, that they don't run the ball enough to give him opportunities, yet we're also supposing that MM should come out passing, passing, and passing.

So which is it?

[texaspackerbacker]

Different people taking those two points of view.

I'm with those who favor the passing, passing, passing, and I mean down the field a significant share of the time, not this quick throw pseudo-running game crap.

As for Aaron Jones, maybe they could use him just a bit more, but really, he should be a change of pace back - splitting time with Williams and Montgomery.

[Joemailman]

Different people taking those two points of view.

I'm with those who favor the passing, passing, passing, and I mean down the field a significant share of the time, not this quick throw pseudo-running game crap.

As for Aaron Jones, maybe they could use him just a bit more, but really, he should be a change of pace back - splitting time with Williams and Montgomery.

That's what they've been doing. You like the results?

[Fritz]

My thoughts exactly there. And Tex, don't come back and say that the offensive line sucks and that's why it's not working. Because if that's true, knowing the offensive line isn't capable, why would you just keep doing it? You know it's not going to work.

[mraynrand]

I'm so confused. We're bitching constantly about MM not using his second-best offensive weapon in Aaron Jones, that they don't run the ball enough to give him opportunities, yet we're also supposing that MM should come out passing, passing, and passing.

So which is it?

Whatever works. We are obligated to complain about everything that fails even if it contradicts an unwavering position we’ve held two seconds ago.

[bobblehead]

The Packers play the Rams this Sunday. The Rams are unbeaten & are considered by many to be the best team in the NFC right now.
The Rams are favored by 9 at the moment.

Now then : let's reason together.
That 9 point spread is based upon what the oddsmakers have seen all season from the 2 teams.
If the Packers simply stick to their usual MO, it will most likely result in a loss - death from a thousand cuts.

WHAT IF : McCarthy went ballistically bold?
Here's what he has :
- a future Hall of Fame QB
- what should be a full complement of healthy receivers
- Ty Montgomery, who has not to date been very effectively utilized, and Jamal Williams, an
adept pass blocker
- an offensive line that is capable of pass blocking for at least a short time
- and, of course, a really undependable defense

WHY NOT : Go all-pass (for at least 3 quarters? If you abandon the old traditional thinking of 'trying to establish the run', you eliminate the inevitable 2 yard runs during your drives, which take the ball out of your most talented player's hands.

Spread the Rams defense out. 4 receiver sets + Montgomery or Williams to pass block or occasionally sneak out of the backfield.
Concentrate on patterns of at least 10 yards.
In effect, you are now betting on one of the best quarterbacks to ever play to hit on at least 33% of his attempts to keep moving the chains.
You also force the Rams to pass rush on every offensive play - which has to begin wearing them down to some degree.
If you can somehow have the lead in the 4th quarter, THEN work in a running game.

I keep reading about how the Packers have to get that ol' running game together - but for me, this is simply playing into the hands of that 9 point spread.

LUCK FAVORS THE BOLD!!

That wears down the OL not the DL. Smash mouth running wears out the DL. Watch the patriots establish the run early and then get pass happy after the DL slows down.

I read that MM self scouted and after actually balancing run/pass well thru 7 games has decided he needs to run more. Funny, its the first time in his career I feel we are running enough, just giving carries to the wrong guys.