Hypothetical Next Coach of the Green Bay Packers

[call_me_ishmael]

No I don't think he would. I wouldn't want to be the next guy. Seriously. They are playing for 2020 or 2021 to contend in the best case. If that goes wrong, you're out.

They're either going to be incredibly successful or exactly what they are now. It all depends on if ARod will work on fundamentals and accept coaching, or if he's just done and a shell of himself.

[Joemailman]

Eric "Sleeping with the" Bieniemy. OC for the Chefs and is considered the next hot HC hire. Rumor is that Reid has trusted him with most of the facets of the offense including QB develpment. He's extremely meticulous in his prep and he really gets a lot of the spacing and isolation concepts Reid does.

This is my new favorite guy. Think maybe Rodgers would look at what the Chiefs have done offensively and be willing to listen to this guy. And Rodgers' presence might help lure Bieniemy here. I will go out on a limb and suggest that Bieniemy would do a better job of utilizing Aaron Jones than MM has.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/21/nf...ndoleezza-rice

ERIC BIENIEMY, CHIEFS OC
Andy Reid’s last two OCs, Doug Pederson and Matt Nagy, are both running their own teams now. Seven of Reid’s former assistants are currently NFL head coaches, a track record that speaks both to Reid’s ability to mentor young coaches and to push for them to land opportunities of their own. Bieniemy has also been linked to the recently open job at his alma mater, Colorado.

[bobblehead]

The MM coaching tree

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Or should I say flag pole.

[pbmax]

Isn't Bienemy in year one as OC?

[pbmax]

Isn't Bienemy in year one as OC?

OK, fair amount of NFL experience on the Offensive side.

As coach:
Colorado (2001–2002)
Running backs coach

UCLA (2003–2005)
Running backs coach

Minnesota Vikings (2006–2010)
Running backs coach

Colorado (2011–2012)
Offensive coordinator

Kansas City Chiefs (2013–2017)
Running backs coach

Kansas City Chiefs (2018–present)
Offensive coordinator

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Bieniemy

[Joemailman]

Isn't Bienemy in year one as OC?

Yes. He was Chiefs RB coach for 5 previous years. Before that he was OC at Colorado. Before that he helped develop Adrian Peterson as Vikings RB coach.

[Pugger]

On another forum I post on there is one guy touting Matt Campbell, the HC at Iowa State. Anybody here know anything about him?

[Smidgeon]

On another forum I post on there is one guy touting Matt Campbell, the HC at Iowa State. Anybody here know anything about him?

All I know is that if he can bring the team at least to consistently above average, he's doing a heck of a job coaching. Iowa State doesn't have the recruiting or financial commitment to athletics to get the football team anywhere near power house status.

[Joemailman]

Campbell has been a HC at Toledo and Iowa State. No NFL experience. He may be a fine coach, but I'd be very surprised if Murphy went in this direction.

[pbmax]

On another forum I post on there is one guy touting Matt Campbell, the HC at Iowa State. Anybody here know anything about him?

Yes, a lot of Football Twitter is talking about him. But as Joe said, its a lot of college people talking and not many pro guys.

[pbmax]

When you try to split the child, the result is that you hire Hue Jackson and Todd Haley and then are left unsure who is running the offense.

https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/status/1067889817252503557

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Campbell? He used to post here at Packerrats.

Just trade McCarthy to the Browns and bring in J-Mac. Trade Jmac to NE for a boatload of picks once belichick retires.

[mraynrand]

When you try to split the child, the result is that you hire Hue Jackson and Todd Haley and then are left unsure who is running the offense.

https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/st...89817252503557

That was a total cluster. It's instructive for the Packers in this way: I think a lot of us believe that Stubby should give up the play calling to an OC. It would be a nice transition if he could bring in a hot shot position coach to be OC (Maybe even steal Cleveland's current acting OC if Cleveland doesn't manage to keep him). This would be a healthy transition because if you are getting stale, there's nothing better than bringing in fresh blood. But you have to surrender some control to make it work, and at this point, I'm not sure Stubby can do it. And if he couldn't, it would look a lot like Cleveland. If the Packers can't bring in new ideas that way, I don't see how they can innovate without canning him.

[call_me_ishmael]

I just don't see any way the next coach isn't Harbaugh. I'll intentionally leave the name off to give me some wiggle room 'cause I'd take either. Unless the two premier young coaches (SF, LA) can give you a great name, then who's better?

Sure, he can't beat OSU, but college is different than the pros. He has been *very* successful everywhere he's been. Those critics seem to ignore the dramatic improvement Harbaugh has made compared to his predecessors ie Brady Hoke, Rich Rod, etc.

I just don't see how you can go with some hot shot young coach who has never done it and expect Aaron freaking Rodgers to listen and respond. He tuned out the world's most renowned QB guru - they need an even bigger name to come in and reign him in. Harbaugh wears out his welcome but you don't need or want him here 10 years. You want him to get you a super bowl in 3 years and build a tough team.

If it's not Jimmy Harbaugh, then I guess my current pecking order is:

1. Jim Harbaugh
2a. Hoodie Jr (I think his offensive system totally changes GB and ARod for the better - if ARod runs it!)
2b. John Harbaugh
3. Tom Herman (Won't happen, makes too much money)
4. Lincoln Riley (Won't happen, will make too much money)
5. David Shaw (Won't happen, makes too much money)
6. Matt Lafleur (Could go way up depending on what Kyle Shanahan has to say about him)
7. John DeFilipo (Eh, this guy just doesn't light my fire but that of course could change. His work with the QB in Philly is impressive but why would Rodgers respect him?)


I just don't see why Rodgers would respect a slew of those dudes. Here's a name that I haven't seen come up at all. What about former Packers WR coach James Franklin?

[Bossman641]

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