Hypothetical Next Coach of the Green Bay Packers

[hoosier]

Jim Schwarz?!?!?!? Wasn't his showing in Det enough to disqualify him for life?

[Bretsky]

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...l=1#post991187

Gil Brandt Twitter has you covered:

There's a multitude of good NFL coaching candidates. If I was hiring, here's what my short list would look like:

1. Jim Schwartz, PHI DC
2. Dave Toub, KC ST coach
3. Kris Richard, DAL DB coach
4. Matt Eberflus, IND DC
5. Lincoln Riley, OKLA HC
6. Jeremy Bates, NYJ OC

None of these guys seem too exciting . Any jump out to you ?

Looking for an offensive or defensive phenom. My Rams nailed it. Why can't we ?

I have predicted several times that Sean Payton will be our next coach after MM; but now that NO is going all in that seems unlikely.

So who out there jumps out ?

I could live with Hoody Genius Jr but I'm not all in on even him.

Jim Harbaugh...good coach...asshole.....I could be ok with him

But any of those guys ? Seems the reason to keep MM

[call_me_ishmael]

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?30606-Official-Fire-Mike-McCarthy-Thread&p=988929&viewfull=1#post988929

Candidates:

Offense
MATT LAFLEUR, OC, TENNESSEE
JOHN DEFILIPPO, OC, MINNESOTA
BRIAN DABOLL, OC, BUFFALO
Josh McDaniels, OC, New England
Dan Campbell, OC, New Orleans
Jim Bob Cooter, OC, Detroit


Defense
JAMES BETTCHER, DC, NYG
JIM SCHWARTZ, DC, PHILADELPHIA
ROBERT SALEH, DC, SAN FRANCISCO
GEORGE EDWARDS, DC, MINNESOTA
Teryl Austin, DC, Cincinnati

College
Chris Petersen, HC, Washington
David Shaw, HC, Stanford
Jim Harbaugh, HC, Michigan
Lincoln Riley, HC, Oklahoma
Matt Campbell, HC, Iowa State

Sorry for the double post. Did not mean to steal your thread.

Let's go through these name by name.

MATT LAFLEUR - I don't know anything about him. Does anyone? What makes him special?

JOHN DEFILIPPO - This is the dude who developed Wentz, but is that more coach, or player? Kirk Cousins hasn't exactly lit the world on fire in Minne. What does he bring that is unique?

BRIAN DABOLL - Call me old fashioned but I just don't want a coach from the Bills. What's this guys hook?

Josh McDaniels - Obviously a tremendous background but isn't the consensus is he's the coach in waiting and sticking in NE? I guess GB might be the type of job he'd leave for, unlike Indy. I gotta imagine he stays put after last off-seasons fiasco though.

Dan Campbell - So is the NO offense still innovative or do they just have a buttload of talent?

Cooter - Meh. He may be a good offensive mind or what have you but where are the results? I know Detroit is Detroit so that's part of it but still.

JAMES BETTCHER - Wouldn't hate it, in fact he's the guy I wanted as DC last year. I doubt they go defensive coach though.

JIM SCHWARTZ - Detroit factor, no. He didn't have results in Detroit, but of course Detroit is Detroit. I just would rather not I guess.

ROBERT SALEH - what's the story morning glory? I've never heard of him.

GEORGE EDWARDS - He surely put a nice product on the field for several years but I do wonder how much Zimmer is directly involved, how much talent plays a role, etc.

Teryl Austin - Detroit is Detroit. No thanks.

Chris Petersen - So is he still running a super innovative offense like in the 200x game between Oklahoma and Boise? I know Washington exploded into the rankings once he arrived after many years of being inept. I have always liked him mainly based on Boise results but truthfully couldn't tell you much about him.

David Shaw - Hard to argue with the consistent results and smash mouth style he plays with. It's easy to see why Stanford was Stanford under Harbaugh because of the name, but Shaw sustaining that success is pretty incredible. Harbaugh hasn't been at Stanford since what, 2010ish now? That's a long ass time of consistent success.

Jim Harbaugh - The reason I like him is for a quarterback he doesn't try to get clever and run a bleeding edge offense, he simply demands toughness in the trenches. If your team is soft now, you know they won't be with Harbaugh. Plus I think a commitment to the run could really benefit and extend Rods career.

Lincoln Riley - Alright, so everybody says Oklahoma runs some super innovative system. I can buy that I guess. What's innovative about it? Does he use a butt load of motion like the dude for the Rams? How does he create space?

Matt Campbell - Couldn't tell you a thing about the guy. What's his story?








A guy I'd like to learn more about is whomever Andy Reid's OC is. He put out Pederson who's a good coach, most people seem to think the Bears dude is a good coach, and now they're still running a super crazy offense designed to maximize the big arm of what's-his-name. I'd like to learn more. Perhaps he is too inexperienced, or perhaps Reid really does run the show there. That said, there's quite the track record from the Andy Reid coaching tree.

Might seem really dumb, but boy, it'd be interesting to put out some feelers to some cerebral QBs and see if they're interested. Peyton has gotta have a lot of time on his hands these days. Granted I think he'd be more likely to buy a team than coach a team.

[Freak Out]

I hate Harbaugh but if he wanted to coach the Packers I'd be down. LOL

[Anti-Polar Bear]

with nothing over 20 yards in the air.

If it moves the chains and scores points, dropping A-bombs on foes won’t matter much.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm no big supporter of McCarthy, but I don't see any names there I'd rather have than McCarthy. I especially hate the idea of Harbaugh.

Pettine should get some consideration. If the Steelers fire Tomlin, he also would be worth considering.

[Pugger]

I hate Harbaugh but if he wanted to coach the Packers I'd be down. LOL

The issue with Harbaugh is he appears to wear out his welcome after a while. Let him stay at Michigan.

[Pugger]

I'm no big supporter of McCarthy, but I don't see any names there I'd rather have than McCarthy. I especially hate the idea of Harbaugh.

Pettine should get some consideration. If the Steelers fire Tomlin, he also would be worth considering.

Hasn't Pettine indicated he would rather stay a DC?

[pbmax]

None of these guys seem too exciting . Any jump out to you ?

Looking for an offensive or defensive phenom. My Rams nailed it. Why can't we ?

I have predicted several times that Sean Payton will be our next coach after MM; but now that NO is going all in that seems unlikely.

So who out there jumps out ?

I could live with Hoody Genius Jr but I'm not all in on even him.

Jim Harbaugh...good coach...asshole.....I could be ok with him

But any of those guys ? Seems the reason to keep MM

None of these guys excite me, but like Partial, I don't know a ton about some of them.

I haven't even decided whether to root for an established HC or a Coordinator. Tend to think Packers will look at coordinators, but can't be sure. Don't even know who is running the search.

But speaking of familiarity, is Jeremy Bates related to Jim Bates, former DC for Mike Sherman?

[pbmax]

Bates is the son of Jim Bates! Man was that guy ticked when he didn't get M3's job. From his wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bates_(American_football)

Personal life[edit]
Bates is the son of former long-time collegiate and NFL coach Jim Bates and attended high school in Sevierville, Tennessee. He played quarterback at the University of Tennessee before transferring to Rice University, where he also played baseball. Bates completed his bachelor's degree in 1999 at Rice.[2] In 2014, Bates hiked the 2,900-mile Continental Divide Trail (CDT), completing a five-month trek across the Continental Divide Trail from Mexico to Canada alone, trekking 20–30 miles per day with a 40 to 60 pound backpack.

Good thing? He's apparently a little nuts.

Bad thing? He was out of football from 2013 to 2017 and he's now associated with the Jets.

edit: Great thing? Gruden connection to another hot shot coaching pup. I think I want him hired just to get to rerun all these stories.

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/69857/after-conquering-3000-mile-trail-coach-faces-new-challenge-jets-qbs

edit2: Possible Seahawks beef. Also battled Alex Gibbs. If he has a connection to Jeff Jagodzinski or a Harbaugh it'll be perfect.

Bates was an offensive coordinator at 34, seemingly on the fast track to becoming a head coach, but he was fired after one season -- a playoff year, no less. There was reported strife between Bates and offensive line coach Alex Gibbs; Carroll, in an out-of-character move, sent Bates packing.

[pbmax]

One more on Bates: https://nypost.com/2018/08/20/years-...ight-nfl-path/

[Fritz]

The issue with Harbaugh is he appears to wear out his welcome after a while. Let him stay at Michigan.

I don't understand the love for Harbaugh. What exactly has he won?

[mraynrand]

I don't understand the love for Harbaugh. What exactly has he won?

579!

[pbmax]

I don't understand the love for Harbaugh. What exactly has he won?

He had a good NFL situation and it blew up with what now looks like an incompetent GM rather than a hard ass approach. Granted, we cannot be sure.

Got to the Super Bowl in a tough division and conference.

He had a top flight D (good drafting and FAs) and made his offense work with some spare parts to balance the salary situation. He's an O side coach and seems flexible. Not sure he is going to mesh with an other worldly talented QB.

[mraynrand]

I'm certain some teams would win more with a hypothetical coach versus their actual coach. Hue Jackson and John Gruden immediately come to mind...