More Banjo: Week 9 @ New England

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Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod
JK Scott said he talked to Brian Gutekunst before the game. The team had a plane ready for him if he needed to get back home. His wife is due Nov. 14 but she will be induced this week #Packers

Aaron Jones 3️⃣ 3️⃣ @Showtyme_33
My Mistake I’ll Correct it Glad to be here (IMAGINE PRAYERFUL HANDS EMOJI HERE)

Ryan Hannable @RyanHannable
The Packers have now lost 12 straight games when not forcing a turnover, including the playoffs. The last time they won without forcing a turnover was the 2014 game against the Patriots.

[channtheman]

What would firing him now accomplish? You think Philbin would turn this team around?

Who cares? Sick of him.

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TRAMONTANA:

[yetisnowman]

Defense did well enough to win even through the injuries. Too many wasted oppurtunities on the other side of the ball. Like last week we stymied great offenses for a significant chunk of the game and failed to capitalize. 5th in yards per game on offense, 14th in points per game. We can't expect this team to succeed with an average offense. It's just the sloppiness that kills me. Talent is one thing, but to me there is no excuse for such terrible rhythm.

[Rutnstrut]

If you can't see that this team is stagnant and poorly coached. You need to back away from the Kool-aid.

[mraynrand]

The other team had most everyone healthy and scored 17.

I guess, at the start. They also just pitched their starting safety and lost multiple defensive backs during the game. it got pretty weird there at the end.

[mraynrand]

If you can't see that this team is stagnant and poorly coached. You need to back away from the Kool-aid.

Weren't they playing the best defensive mind in the history of football?

[pbmax]

I guess, at the start. They also just pitched their starting safety and lost multiple defensive backs during the game. it got pretty weird there at the end.

Speaking strictly on offense. They lost Bulaga. Patriots were down a lineman at the start, which is a slight advantage in prep. Spriggs was not a tire fire.

The offense had the parts you wanted at the beginning of the season save the RT and I think he lasted most of a half. Rodgers was moving better than all season. Both backs available plus the receivers and Graham. Worst you can say about the rest of their health is that Cobb probably wasn't 100%.

I'll have to check the numbers, but this Pats D has struggled some this year and their pass rush has been mediocre. Playing at Foxboro is tough, but they have fought this before. Should have had more.

[Fosco33]

This thread is a little depressing but spot on.

ARod has masked a bad team. It’s very hard to win without turnovers and scoring above 21 pts/game.

Time to move on fully from ted/mike.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers or Hundley, the cumulative analysis shows that the Packers don't have many good players.

While I agree that the desperation drafts of all defense lately have left the cupboard bare on offense, as noted somewhere above, the gameplan blows. Watch a saints game with all the screens and slants. See the way headcoaches are utilizing RBs out of the backfield and realize the game has passed fat Mike by.

[bobblehead]

Anyone feel like looking back the last 3 games and seeing how many Aaron Jones series ended with scores vs. anyone else?

[bobblehead]

This thread is a little depressing but spot on.

ARod has masked a bad team. It’s very hard to win without turnovers and scoring above 21 pts/game.

Time to move on fully from ted/mike.

Not buying the ARod excuse anymore. He is missing open guys underneath too often. I pointed out the play where he split out Montgomery and then didn't throw to him wide open after 7 yards and ended up taking a sack. I have seen 3-4 times a game he missed a guy wide open underneath. How many times did Brady unload in 2.5 seconds or less in that graphic? ARod has to accept some blame for holding the ball too long too often.

[Pugger]

AR did admit he passed on throwing to an open Adams underneath. This tendency of his to not take what the defense is giving him is becoming a major problem IMO. If MM won't do anything about it then he has to go. We need a HC who will take charge and actually coach.

[call_me_ishmael]

Read somewhere that Packers were equally successful in last 10 games under Rodgers and the backup last year. That's crazy. Shows how bad this team is. I like Mike McCarthy and respect him a lot but it's time for a change. Andy Reid in Eagles type situation. He should be cheered and celebrated every time he comes back. He didn't do us wrong, and he doesn't deserve it, but it's just time.

[Joemailman]

Read somewhere that Packers were equally successful in last 10 games under Rodgers and the backup last year. That's crazy. Shows how bad this team is. I like Mike McCarthy and respect him a lot but it's time for a change. Andy Reid in Eagles type situation. He should be cheered and celebrated every time he comes back. He didn't do us wrong, and he doesn't deserve it, but it's just time.

It's true. It's slightly deceiving in that it includes the game where Rodgers got hurt in the 1st quarter. Still, going back to 2016, Packers are only 17-13-1 with Rodgers as starter. They've become mediocre, and only rise above mediocrity when Rodgers has one of those games where he is just unstoppable.
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