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  • #76
    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
    Rodgers has 4 years left on his contract and wants to play to 40, drafting Jordan Love feels way premature. Trading UP for him feels egregious.
    I thought it was a little early too. But if you believe in a QB, paying that price is nothing. If Love turns out to be a great QB, nobody will care about that 4th round pick.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      I thought it was a little early too. But if you believe in a QB, paying that price is nothing. If Love turns out to be a great QB, nobody will care about that 4th round pick.
      That “IF” basically destroyed a 4 year Super Bowl run we had and I thought we were close. Gute jumps off the reservation AGAIN and is sacrificing all of that for a guy that threw 17 interceptions last year at Utah State and his play was underwhelming. He has accuracy issues. He is not blazing fast or some great athlete. He was arrested for marijuana charges before his bowl game(which they lost). All he has is a strong arm. I watched him in 4-5 games last year and he is noting special. This isn’t like Aaron Rodgers coming out of Cal.

      I don’t see all this upside. Worst case scenario we have another Desean Kizer. Best case scenario maybe Josh Allen. Still a bottom half QB. This isn’t like when the Chiefs jumped up for Pattrick Mahommes. There is no “It Factor” with Jordan Love.

      Sorry. but this is another Packer Draft Debacle. And people wonder why we can’t win more Super Bowls.

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      • #78
        What's done is done. The way to maintain sanity is to reconcile it in your mind and hope for the best.

        The Packers aren't that far from the top. Gutekunst has been more good than bad when you consider the whole picture - free agency and the draft. Get a good speed receiver, which we still have a strong chance to do, and the offense is a lot better. Upgrade the D Line just a little bit, and the D improves a lot. We may already have replaced Martinez adequately.

        R-E-L-A-X.
        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
          What's done is done. The way to maintain sanity is to reconcile it in your mind and hope for the best.

          The Packers aren't that far from the top. Gutekunst has been more good than bad when you consider the whole picture - free agency and the draft. Get a good speed receiver, which we still have a strong chance to do, and the offense is a lot better. Upgrade the D Line just a little bit, and the D improves a lot. We may already have replaced Martinez adequately.

          R-E-L-A-X.
          Did you not see what the Niners did tonight? Omg, they went and got Kinlaw and then they made the trade of the draft getting Aiyuk. I’m sorry but we should of been the team making that trade. Then we trade up and give up a 4th for a back up QB that best case scenario needs 2-3 years to develop. It’s becoming very difficult to trust the process at this time with the decisions of Gary last year and now this.

          I understand what’s done is done but this is just maddening. A lot of people are losing faith quickly.

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          • #80
            Brandon - There is no fucking way Packers can compete with teams like SF. Just way too strong as last season showed Packers not in same class.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
              Brandon - There is no fucking way Packers can compete with teams like SF. Just way too strong as last season showed Packers not in same class.
              Baloney. Same thing was said about the 49ers and Cowboys in the 90s. Nothing stays the same. Packers need to improve but its possible.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #82
                This season is big for Gutes imo. He has nailed the HC and spent all the money TT left him with, but to me his drafting has been pretty bad. He is truly the anti TT. You can win being anti TT, but I prefer the slow methodical team build that Ted offered.

                2018:

                Round 1: CB Jaire Alexander ........stud, good pick and we picked up capital making it. Still wonder if Derwin James at our pick was the right play.
                Round 2: CB Josh Jackson. ........Looks like a bust. Can barely hit the field.
                Round 3: LB Oren Burks. ....... Ditto above
                Round 4: WR J'Mon Moore. .......how is cleveland treating you?
                Round 5: OL Cole Madison. ......At least he reported to the team last year
                Round 5: P JK Scott. ......so streaky. but a punter in the 5th should be a stud
                Round 5: WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling. ......still my best hope to save this draft. Was hurt in year 2. This year defines him
                Round 6: WR Equanimeous St...........Ditto above about this year defining him

                2019:

                No. 12: Rashan Gary, DL, Better improve massively. Nothing to show or grade so far
                No. 21 (from Seahawks): Darnell Savage.....Meh. So far wasn't worth trading up for. He may be ok. Still not happy with the pick
                No. 44: Elgton Jenkins.....Probably Gutes best pick so far. Stayed put and landed a stud in 2nd round
                No. 75: Jace Sternberger.....I have some hope for him, but will never be a game changer. He can be serviceable at least as a starter.
                No. 150: Kingsley Keke....time will tell. Takes a minute for DL
                No. 185: Ka'dar Hollman....how come we keep hearing about all the young cbs then none of them improve?
                No. 194: Dexter Williams....a position that doesn't take time is taking its time
                No. 226: Ty Summers....probably not any long term answer. ST guy

                And now add trading up for a QB with Rodgers playing well and having 4 years on contract. I'm not impressed.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  No. 194: Dexter Williams....a position that doesn't take time is taking its time
                  Poetic and prophetic. Love it.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #84
                    Honestly, I think Gute still believes in Lowry/Lancaster and MVS/ESB.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Honestly, I think Gute still believes in Lowry/Lancaster and MVS/ESB.
                      Well THAT'S not good.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Well THAT'S not good.
                        I distrust those evaluations more than the Love pick.

                        I get the offense part though. It was a top 10 offense despite missing some important threats.

                        The defense was better than past couple of years but still problematic.

                        I will say this. Lots of teams hit on first rounder more often than the Packers (Giants come to mind). But they still usually stink. If you think the first round is for difference makers rather than just starters, then the Love pick might be for you.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                          Brandon - There is no fucking way Packers can compete with teams like SF. Just way too strong as last season showed Packers not in same class.
                          With current moves they are making your 100 percent right.

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                          • #88
                            Yo, what race is Love?

                            I was just watching the Love pick on the YouTube, and NFL Network showed Love surrounded by that shit that the Fast and the Furious folks love, and what I aint got, family. Saw an Asian dude, 2 white chicks, 2 black chicks, a kid and a dog.

                            They said Love's a poor man's Mahome. Anyways, this pick will provide the Great Arm of Butte with great motivation to be great again. And Love, playing on the scout team, will better prepare the hapless, toothless Pack D against the likes of Mahome, Watson, Jackson and them other unnatural QBs out there.

                            That being said, what a wasteful pick. Rodgers just needs to dump that NASCAR cougar and crawl back to Yoko, and he'll be great again. Remember, Lennon composed his best shit while in love with Yoko.

                            Shoulda stayed put and drafted Jon Taylor, RB, Wisconsin. Ahman Green was Favre's BFF during the Sherman era. The Frog (LeFluer) loves to run the rock. Taylor is a poor man's Ahman Green. Rodgers could use a BFF, especially with the wankers at WR.

                            Shoulda drafted Metcalf last year.
                            Last edited by Guest; 04-24-2020, 11:42 AM.

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                            • #89
                              I would of LOVED Johnathan Taylor over this mess. Hell, I’d even be down with some corner from a small school over this.

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                              • #90
                                If only we had a Poor Man running the draft instead of Guter.
                                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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