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Not a banjo thing, but boy, I am asking myself what ARod has done the past 2 years to deserve the extension he got. If this is all they get from him from here on out, and he has been merely above average, not godlike, since 2015 onwards, then I think they will regret that contract*. I was 100% on board with play it out then wait and see. He's had a lot of season ending-ish injuries, what, 3 now?
* Probably not, but still, whole lotta money above the next guy for less production.
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Just ask yourself this:Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostNot a banjo thing, but boy, I am asking myself what ARod has done the past 2 years to deserve the extension he got. If this is all they get from him from here on out, and he has been merely above average, not godlike, since 2015 onwards, then I think they will regret that contract*. I was 100% on board with play it out then wait and see. He's had a lot of season ending-ish injuries, what, 3 now?
* Probably not, but still, whole lotta money above the next guy for less production.
1. Re-sign and pay Mike McCarthy and DeShone Kizer?
2. Or re-sign and pay Aaron Rodgers and some new coach with an actual offense.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Or C, play out the next two years of his contract, and then see what happens. Hell, even one year gives you more info. If he's playing great, then keep rolling on franchise deal like Kirk Cousins. ARod would probably be fine with the franchise deal at that point. Sure, he might be mad short term pre-franchise but as I mentioned numerous times, he can't throw a fit or holdout or anything like that and risk ruining his reputation and lose the endorsement money.
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There is a large incentive to not come to camp for either of the last two years in that case. So you have to book the money on the cap AND find someone else to play the position. Worst of both worlds.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostOr C, play out the next two years of his contract, and then see what happens. Hell, even one year gives you more info. If he's playing great, then keep rolling on franchise deal like Kirk Cousins. ARod would probably be fine with the franchise deal at that point. Sure, he might be mad short term pre-franchise but as I mentioned numerous times, he can't throw a fit or holdout or anything like that and risk ruining his reputation and lose the endorsement money.
Steelers can find a suitable replacement for Bell, Packers can't for Rodgers that easily.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Solution: draft his replacement in 2019. Do it now before you're desperate.Originally posted by pbmax View PostThere is a large incentive to not come to camp for either of the last two years in that case. So you have to book the money on the cap AND find someone else to play the position. Worst of both worlds.
Steelers can find a suitable replacement for Bell, Packers can't for Rodgers that easily."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Bell isn't a national spokesmen, though. Bell doesn't risk the advertising dollars that Rodgers does by becoming a not-so-popular-or-well-liked player by holding out, etc.Originally posted by pbmax View PostThere is a large incentive to not come to camp for either of the last two years in that case. So you have to book the money on the cap AND find someone else to play the position. Worst of both worlds.
Steelers can find a suitable replacement for Bell, Packers can't for Rodgers that easily.
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Actually, one of of those 1 yard passes, I thought it would have been more if Rodgers had thrown it to him sooner. By the time Jones got the ball. a defender was right on him.Originally posted by pbmax View PostAs I said earlier, two passes that half went to Jones for 1 yard each. But this seems a little more open.
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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This image makes me sadOriginally posted by pbmax View PostAs I said earlier, two passes that half went to Jones for 1 yard each. But this seems a little more open.

Baby I refuse, I do refuse to check it down
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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This is the most trollish comment I will ever make and I am mostly kidding, but here it goes:Originally posted by pbmax View PostSteelers can find a suitable replacement for Bell, Packers can't for Rodgers that easily.
Are you so sure about that? The recent records with Rodgers and Hundley are awfully similar.
/troll
Okay, so in all reality, I do wonder if he isn't slipping a bit. He's had two bad wings now, and a blown ACL. The guys that seem to last until 40, which until recently is super rare, have never really had injury problems like that. Brees had the Labrum thing for a year, and Brady tore the ACL once, and Manning only had the neck thing and was a shell of himself after it. 3 vs 1 in the major injury department scares me a bit and makes me think maybe Rodgers isn't cut from the same cloth of durability.
He's middle of the road (16th) in passer rating when factoring in people who have thrown the ball a lot.
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Just go dark.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostBell isn't a national spokesmen, though. Bell doesn't risk the advertising dollars that Rodgers does by becoming a not-so-popular-or-well-liked player by holding out, etc.
Or come out of the closet and be celebrated. Rodgers has nothing to worry about regardless"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Of course. But you have to find Rodgers again in the 20s and be ready to rebuild a bit. Packers weren't brave about Favre's status until Rodgers had been around for 2 years.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostSolution: draft his replacement in 2019. Do it now before you're desperate.
I think part of what made Favre sulk and melted his brain in those last 3 year, where suddenly cold and wind mattered, was the knowledge that Rodgers was going to take over eventually and there was nothing he could do to prevent it. Screwed with his head just like contract matters for Finley and Dix did with their noggins.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Yep, He double clutched to try and get some space and it didn't work. A quick throw and Jones has one guy to beat. The late throw put two guys in his way.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostActually, one of of those 1 yard passes, I thought it would have been more if Rodgers had thrown it to him sooner. By the time Jones got the ball. a defender was right on him.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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But now you are hanging the fate of your franchise on the player not wanting to tarnish his reputation. That is a thin reed.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostBell isn't a national spokesmen, though. Bell doesn't risk the advertising dollars that Rodgers does by becoming a not-so-popular-or-well-liked player by holding out, etc.
Contract matters have messed with a lot of players' heads before.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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