More Banjo: Week 10 @ Seattle

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New candidate for dumbest take:

Joe Banner @JoeBanner13
No one seems to remember the worst thing McCarthy did in my opinion. Rodgers was 16-19 and Packers had gained 250 yards in the first half, and scored 21 points. When sideline reporter asked him what they needed to do better in the second half he said “run more”. How did that go?


Did he watch the second half or is he saying they SHOULD have run more?

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New candidate for dumbest take:

Joe Banner @JoeBanner13
No one seems to remember the worst thing McCarthy did in my opinion. Rodgers was 16-19 and Packers had gained 250 yards in the first half, and scored 21 points. When sideline reporter asked him what they needed to do better in the second half he said “run more”. How did that go?


Did he watch the second half or is he saying they SHOULD have run more?

Though to really understand just what he’s saying there

I think, he’s saying we should have kept passing and not run in the second half

So no, it doesn’t look like he watched the second half, because that is exactly what we did and it’s what killed us

[Fritz]

As I said earlier, two passes that half went to Jones for 1 yard each. But this seems a little more open.

That picture is driving me crazy. That's at least a first down, possibly a touch down.

And you are right, even on the two long TD passes, he throws short. Better than too long, but still not his old touch.

Man, the defense is not great, by any means, but it's better than it has been the last couple years. If MM
and Rodgers could get this offense straight (and now they even have a good, really good, running back!), they'd be at least 6-3-1 by now.

I sense though that the whole thing is gone stale, and it's time for a change of coaches. Ted's gone, and if Fackrell and Josh Jones pan out (they are both playing much better lately), then we'll have to retract the "it's all TT's fault" narrative, and make room for McCarthy to get some of the blame for not being able to score points, even with a solid offensive line (despite what Tex says).

[mraynrand]

It's like in years past when we could count on the 3rd down defense to fail.

It's like we now count on the 3rd down offense to fail.

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That picture is driving me crazy. That's at least a first down, possibly a touch down.

And you are right, even on the two long TD passes, he throws short. Better than too long, but still not his old touch.

Man, the defense is not great, by any means, but it's better than it has been the last couple years. If MM
and Rodgers could get this offense straight (and now they even have a good, really good, running back!), they'd be at least 6-3-1 by now.

I sense though that the whole thing is gone stale, and it's time for a change of coaches. Ted's gone, and if Fackrell and Josh Jones pan out (they are both playing much better lately), then we'll have to retract the "it's all TT's fault" narrative, and make room for McCarthy to get some of the blame for not being able to score points, even with a solid offensive line (despite what Tex says).

What kills me is not that Rodgers missed this on any one play or game.

Its that the most explosive guy on offense, except perhaps Adams, is allowed free reign for 5 yards or more to make mischief without being covered. No mater how good Bobby Wagner is, this isn't a sweep where he gets to line him up at the edge.

You should, in the game plan, expect to abuse this until they drop a LB into coverage regularly on him, even if he firsts stay in to block. That means one less defender in the middle of the end zone. But neither McCarthy nor Rodgers like to pass to backs normally.

[George Cumby]

It's like we now count on the 3rd down offense to fail.

It’s like the bad Favor years. 3rd and 12. You’re thinking to yourself: “Oh God, what idiocy is this brain dead hill billy gonna come up with THIS time?”

During Rodgers good years:”Third and twelve? Meh, we got this.”

[denverYooper]

It's like we now count on the 3rd down offense to fail.

Accurate.

[Freak Out]

That picture is driving me crazy. That's at least a first down, possibly a touch down.

And you are right, even on the two long TD passes, he throws short. Better than too long, but still not his old touch.

Man, the defense is not great, by any means, but it's better than it has been the last couple years. If MM
and Rodgers could get this offense straight (and now they even have a good, really good, running back!), they'd be at least 6-3-1 by now.

I sense though that the whole thing is gone stale, and it's time for a change of coaches. Ted's gone, and if Fackrell and Josh Jones pan out (they are both playing much better lately), then we'll have to retract the "it's all TT's fault" narrative, and make room for McCarthy to get some of the blame for not being able to score points, even with a solid offensive line (despite what Tex says).

Not a automatic first down if you watch it unfold...but I'd give Jones a shot at making someone miss...and if not it's 4th and short.

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Played the presser super cool, but did slip up at 7:30 or so about how they need to get open so he can throw the ball.

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Not a automatic first down if you watch it unfold...but I'd give Jones a shot at making someone miss...and if not it's 4th and short.

Agreed. I am sure someone was assigned to watch for the last receiver out of the backfield. Its not that they forgot him, but that he is open.

Generally, QBs have great problems when they throw short of the sticks, it doesn't lend itself to 3rd down conversions. A lot of bad offenses throw short on 3rd and long and end up with 4th and 3 and punt.

Its not perfect, but if you gain five yards, its better on 4th down as you say. A lot depends on whether this is four down territory or not.

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Not a automatic first down if you watch it unfold...but I'd give Jones a shot at making someone miss...and if not it's 4th and short.

Freak, do you know this guy?

[Joemailman]

Not a automatic first down if you watch it unfold...but I'd give Jones a shot at making someone miss...and if not it's 4th and short.

Maybe not automatic, but he's got an inside/outside option, with a potential blocker on the outside. Taking Jones down in the open field is a tough task.

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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

The #Packers lost two starters in their brutal loss to the #Seahawks on Thursday. Along with TE Jimmy Graham (broken thumb), source said DE Mike Daniels is out a few weeks with a foot injury. He saw Dr. Robert Anderson and will get a timeline when he returns from the weekend off.

Going to find out a lot about Mt. Adams quickly.

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New candidate for dumbest take:

Joe Banner @JoeBanner13
No one seems to remember the worst thing McCarthy did in my opinion. Rodgers was 16-19 and Packers had gained 250 yards in the first half, and scored 21 points. When sideline reporter asked him what they needed to do better in the second half he said “run more”. How did that go?


Did he watch the second half or is he saying they SHOULD have run more?

He is saying that MM did the worst thing imaginable. He knew the answer. Run more. Then he promptly went out and didn't run. I think he worded it very badly. Or you could be right and he is a raging moron.

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He is saying that MM did the worst thing imaginable. He knew the answer. Run more. Then he promptly went out and didn't run. I think he worded it very badly. Or you could be right and he is a raging moron.

I know what you are saying, but that doesn't seem to be the idea behind the question. It screams "You f***ed up the offense in the second half" by running more dummy.