More Banjo: Week 10 @ Seattle

[Pugger]

He is saying that MM did the worst thing imaginable. He knew the answer. Run more. Then he promptly went out and didn't run. I think he worded it very badly. Or you could be right and he is a raging moron.

Stubby talks a good game but at the first sign of the running game stalling he abandons it and goes back to having AR throw long bombs on 3rd and short. It is absolute insanity. We don't see other teams doing this shit either.

[Pugger]

The other part that kills me is that he didn't anticipate having to make that call. Why are you calling a TO when you might need it later just to get a play in?

Why do we need to waste all these TOs because we can't get the damn play in early enough? This is another thing that we do that drives me crazy.

[Joemailman]

Stubby talks a good game but at the first sign of the running game stalling he abandons it and goes back to having AR throw long bombs on 3rd and short. It is absolute insanity. We don't see other teams doing this shit either.

It's especially frustrating with a guy like Jones. He's the type of back who can get stuffed 3 plays in a row and then break one for 40.

[denverYooper]

It's especially frustrating with a guy like Jones. He's the type of back who can get stuffed 3 plays in a row and then break one for 40.

Has he gotten stuffed 3 plays in a row? It seems that he and the Packers OL are very good this year about getting + yards.

        TM     ALY     RB YDS     Power          Stuffed          2nd Lvl       Open Field       Pass Pro
1 	LAR 	5.73 	5.01 	63% 	24 	13.6% 	2 	1.63 	3 	0.72 	19 	7 	20 	5.2%
2 	NO 	5.04 	4.26 	78% 	6 	13.2% 	1 	1.11 	23 	0.64 	21 	2 	9 	4.3%
3 	IND 	4.99 	4.96 	65% 	20 	16.0% 	3 	1.45 	6 	0.96 	13 	5 	10 	4.5%
4 	GB 	4.99 	5.18 	70% 	16 	16.8% 	5 	1.65 	2 	0.99 	12 	19 	27 	7.4%
5 	DEN 	4.84 	5.05 	79% 	4 	19.3% 	15 	1.57 	4 	1.05 	8 	16 	24 	7.1%

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

[mraynrand]

Has he gotten stuffed 3 plays in a row? It seems that he and the Packers OL are very good this year about getting + yards.

        TM     ALY     RB YDS     Power          Stuffed          2nd Lvl       Open Field       Pass Pro
1 	LAR 	5.73 	5.01 	63% 	24 	13.6% 	2 	1.63 	3 	0.72 	19 	7 	20 	5.2%
2 	NO 	5.04 	4.26 	78% 	6 	13.2% 	1 	1.11 	23 	0.64 	21 	2 	9 	4.3%
3 	IND 	4.99 	4.96 	65% 	20 	16.0% 	3 	1.45 	6 	0.96 	13 	5 	10 	4.5%
4 	GB 	4.99 	5.18 	70% 	16 	16.8% 	5 	1.65 	2 	0.99 	12 	19 	27 	7.4%
5 	DEN 	4.84 	5.05 	79% 	4 	19.3% 	15 	1.57 	4 	1.05 	8 	16 	24 	7.1%

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Honestly, they have a 'stuffed' category/ Perfect for Thanksgiving weekend.

[Fritz]

I still can't figure how Stubs thought his defense would stop Seattle at that point.

[pbmax]

I still can't figure how Stubs thought his defense would stop Seattle at that point.

I will give him the fact that he shouldn't have any confidence in his 3rd/4th down offense. But with 1 timeout and the way Seattle had run, you had to know how it would work out.

[bobblehead]

I still can't figure how Stubs thought his defense would stop Seattle at that point.

Stubby always thinks within a predetermined subset. What his eyes have told him for 55 minutes isn't relevant, its what he knows from 35 years in the game. He knows that the defense can theoretically get a stop. He knew yesterday and 5 years ago that you punt there because if you get a stop you still have time for a FG. It didn't matter what had happened that half or that game.

[bobblehead]

Ironically if we are in a similar situation, but had gotten 4 straight 3 and outs in a defensive slugfest he will punt again....and think that the situation was identical because the down/distance/time and deficit were all identical.

[pbmax]

Stubby always thinks within a predetermined subset. What his eyes have told him for 55 minutes isn't relevant, its what he knows from 35 years in the game. He knows that the defense can theoretically get a stop. He knew yesterday and 5 years ago that you punt there because if you get a stop you still have time for a FG. It didn't matter what had happened that half or that game.

Its EXACTLY this. Rand has pointed this out too, but this exact same stubborn approach, which helps keep him, the coaches and the players on an even keel simply prevents him from making any substantial changes in the middle of anything (game or season).

You have to threaten his QB to make him change his plan. And then only after halftime.