Vikings II Talk

[pbmax]

So Rodgers, Adams, Bach and Clark?

Pro Football Focus @PFF
Aaron Donald has been the NFL's best interior defender through 11 weeks.

[mraynrand]

I have “2nd and 11 for experts” by Cleft Crusty. Far more informative and insulting.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Some whine about the Packers finding ways to lose; I prefer to think of it as being snake bit by freak occurrences. The only game the Packers were out of was against Washington. ALL of the others including the Rams and Patriots on the road they arguably should have one. That includes the damn tie against the Vikings, which clearly should have been a Packer win.

Not in the Vikings league? Fuck that. "Reign" in Rodgers? That's idiocy too. Your analysis is on a par with your spelling, Wist.

Could, woulda, shoulda, if only are for losers. Winners don’t say coulda, woulda, shoulda, if only. Winners find a way to win.

Pack are what their record says they’re are.

[texaspackerbacker]

I disagree. HOW is all happens is very relevant.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I disagree. HOW is all happens is very relevant.

Quit swimming in the sea of excuses, Tex. 4-5-1 says this team is inconsistent, stupid and soft.

[texaspackerbacker]

Which of those 5 losses and a tie other than the Redskins game do you see as a "clean" loss - no weirdness in terms of officiating, luck, or freak events?

[Fritz]

Which of those 5 losses and a tie other than the Redskins game do you see as a "clean" loss - no weirdness in terms of officiating, luck, or freak events?

Tex, there are very, very few "clean" losses OR wins. Things just seem to go your way when you're winning, and when you're losing, things don't fall your way.

Right now, the Packers are what they are - a mediocre football team. Somewhere between what you think and what Wist thinks.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Right now, the Packers are what they are - a mediocre football team. Somewhere between what you think and what Wist thinks.

So, perfect shit.

[bobblehead]

I don't view McCarthy as a competent game manager anymore... he wastes possessions, wastes timeouts, has lousy situational awareness, et al.

Add to that the fundamental flaws that exist on the roster, i.e. horrifically bad LB play, a soft OL, and a QB who won't take what is given...

Add it up... the Packers are a mess - at least in terms of contending.

We're good enough to beat bad teams, and we're good enough to sort of hang with better teams... but the end is never really in doubt.

Gute needs to fire Fat Mike, and continue to turn the roster over.

Agree with all that except...MN isn't really that good of a team right now either. I actually think we beat them.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't know what "perfect shit" means hahahahaha. What I see from some in here, though, a distinct fear of being wrong by telling it like it is and predicting the Packers will win. The fact is, we damn near won games against probably 2 of the 3 best teams in the league, beaten only by bad calls and weird occurrences. We also were tied by the Vikings in large part due to bad calls. We lost to Detroit on the aberration of Mason Crosby's career worst game. We lost to Seattle also in large part due to bad calls. All of those losses were on the road; All of them were with Aaron Rodgers less healthy and mobile than he presumably is now.

Whine on if you like about how bad the Packers are (shame on you if you do, though). I'm expecting a victory against the Vikings`and I'm not ruling out running the table a lot like we did in the 2010 season - when there was similar whining and negativity, as I recall.

[Pugger]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-nfl-2018-first-quarter-all-pro-team

[pbmax]

Here is a newer one: https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...n-all-pro-team

Bach is first team LT
Clark is honorable mention
Martinez is behind Vanderesch and Wagner and Kuechly and Brown now
JK Scott had honorable mention at the 1/4 pole but is not on the list now behind Palardy and Koch

[wist43]

Best case scenario for the rest of season is 8-7-1.

That would include the expected losses against Minn and Chi, and not coughing up a fur ball against one of the teams we're expected to beat.

We're not a contender, so losses help us next year... take the long view.

[pbmax]

Chris Tomasson @christomasson
Hearing #Vikings WR Chad Beebe could miss multiple games with hamstring injury suffered in practice Wednesday. Wondering if Vikings might consider IR on him if feel injury could linger. If immediate roster spot sought, would seem TE Cole Hikutini could be candidate but we'll see.


It doesn't take much of a Packer connection to shred a hammy. I bet there is a college senior or two who tweaked a hammy in the last month just as the prospect of being scouted and drafted by the Packers. They are now questionable for rivalry week.

[Pugger]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25367030/nick-perry-green-bay-packers-placed-injured-reserve