Official 2018 Packers at Vikings Game Day II Thread: End the Madness

[call_me_ishmael]

Bad game. I don't understand how the offense can look so anemic. I really do not understand. They have a great LT, an allegedly great WR (I still don't personally see it), and what everyone says is a great running back (jury still out IMO).

I simply do not get it at all. I put all of this on ARod, 90%. Sure, the coach may call shitty plays, but surely there is some underneath route happening or he can always audible, etc.

My questions:

1. Is ARod a coach killer?

2. Can ARod be salvaged? His fundamentals are garbage and he seems to think practicing doing goofy ass improv shit is more important than the basics. He is ass at the basics right now. Can he be coached?

For me it's not about better, it's about different and actually listening. They need ARod to go back to QB 101, 201, 301 instead of focusing on the masters level shit. Who will he listen to and do that for?

There are two names as coaches that comes to mind, and neither is very likely. Jim Harbaugh, and Peyton Manning.

[Pugger]

Bad game. I don't understand how the offense can look so anemic. I really do not understand. They have a great LT, an allegedly great WR (I still don't personally see it), and what everyone says is a great running back (jury still out IMO).

I simply do not get it at all. I put all of this on ARod, 90%. Sure, the coach may call shitty plays, but surely there is some underneath route happening or he can always audible, etc.

My questions:

1. Is ARod a coach killer?

2. Can ARod be salvaged? His fundamentals are garbage and he seems to think practicing doing goofy ass improv shit is more important than the basics. He is ass at the basics right now. Can he be coached?

For me it's not about better, it's about different and actually listening. They need ARod to go back to QB 101, 201, 301 instead of focusing on the masters level shit. Who will he listen to and do that for?

There are two names as coaches that comes to mind, and neither is very likely. Jim Harbaugh, and Peyton Manning.

Seriously??

I think AR will be fine with a new coach. We've heard rumors for a couple of years about how Stubby and Rodgers have been at odds. Maybe a new approach and a new voice will be the elixir this offense needs.

[MadScientist]

Seriously??

I think AR will be fine with a new coach. We've heard rumors for a couple of years about how Stubby and Rodgers have been at odds. Maybe a new approach and a new voice will be the elixir this offense needs.

I hope so. I am concerned that the injuries, particularly the last collar bone break has left permanent damage. Still if a new coach can scheme players open better, there's hope for a solid improvement, even if Rodgers never regains his MVP form.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Bad game. I don't understand how the offense can look so anemic. I really do not understand. They have a great LT, an allegedly great WR (I still don't personally see it), and what everyone says is a great running back (jury still out IMO).

I simply do not get it at all. I put all of this on ARod, 90%. Sure, the coach may call shitty plays, but surely there is some underneath route happening or he can always audible, etc.

My questions:

1. Is ARod a coach killer?

2. Can ARod be salvaged? His fundamentals are garbage and he seems to think practicing doing goofy ass improv shit is more important than the basics. He is ass at the basics right now. Can he be coached?

For me it's not about better, it's about different and actually listening. They need ARod to go back to QB 101, 201, 301 instead of focusing on the masters level shit. Who will he listen to and do that for?

There are two names as coaches that comes to mind, and neither is very likely. Jim Harbaugh, and Peyton Manning.

J-Mac. Maybe Tedford.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Activate Kum next week. I'm gonna be at that game and I want to see if that guy has anything or is just a camp guy.

Kum could be our Adam Thielen, you know the guy that dark-skinned corners refuse to respect but at the same time, they astoundingly can’t cover.

[beveaux1]

Frankly, one of our biggest problems has been Rodgers, or our expectations of how Rodgers should be playing. In past years you could count on one finger the number of poor throws he might make in a game. This year, every game, he seems to make at least 5 bad throws.

That, coupled with young receivers learning on the job, completely stalls drives. When you can't move down the field in quick strike fashion, and you must put together long, sustained drives with a lot of running plays. A single, misfired pass ends the drive.

A single, hold the ball moment where you take a sack, ends the drive. A single pass thrown that does not lead the receiver, but forces him to lose forward momentum and come up short of a first down, ends the drive. These things happen all too often this year.

[Pugger]

And so the season ends.

This season was over weeks ago...

[call_me_ishmael]

Seriously??

I think AR will be fine with a new coach. We've heard rumors for a couple of years about how Stubby and Rodgers have been at odds. Maybe a new approach and a new voice will be the elixir this offense needs.

Yes, seriously. I am to the point where I almost think Aaron is a coach killer. I believe that there is a weird perception here that MM is only sending 4 players deep play after play, which is of course nonsense. I think most of the blame falls on ARod and short of the run-the-table anomaly, he has been basically garbage since they lost to Seattle in the NFCC.

I am not sure who is a big enough, respected enough coach to reign in ARod. He has no fundamentals and looks lost out there. I am not totally convinced his injuries over the years, 3 "season enders", have taken their toll and he's washed up. His footwork is garbage and the results obviously follow that. Kid likes to practice throwing the ball while falling over and not having the seams, well the dude cannot even sling a basic spiral right now so clearly the advanced phD style practicing isn't paying off.

Can anyone else remember a 34 year old QB getting their grove back? I guess maybe Rich Gannon but I can't think of anybody else.

[gbgary]

about what i expected. *sigh*

[mraynrand]

Can anyone else remember a 34 year old QB getting their grove back? I guess maybe Rich Gannon but I can't think of anybody else.

Warren Moon! Randall Cunningham! Brett Favre!

[pbmax]

Yes, seriously. I am to the point where I almost think Aaron is a coach killer. I believe that there is a weird perception here that MM is only sending 4 players deep play after play, which is of course nonsense. I think most of the blame falls on ARod and short of the run-the-table anomaly, he has been basically garbage since they lost to Seattle in the NFCC.

I am not sure who is a big enough, respected enough coach to reign in ARod. He has no fundamentals and looks lost out there. I am not totally convinced his injuries over the years, 3 "season enders", have taken their toll and he's washed up. His footwork is garbage and the results obviously follow that. Kid likes to practice throwing the ball while falling over and not having the seams, well the dude cannot even sling a basic spiral right now so clearly the advanced phD style practicing isn't paying off.

Can anyone else remember a 34 year old QB getting their grove back? I guess maybe Rich Gannon but I can't think of anybody else.

Favre.

[pbmax]

Jeff George.

[pbmax]

John Elway.

[pbmax]

Phil Simms

[call_me_ishmael]

I am not sure those guys went from complete shells of themselves back to star level players. Rod is playing like a back-up right now.