Ding Dong McCarthy is gone

[Bossman641]

The Packers simply don't do enough to create natural rubs and easy releases for their receivers, who have to win one-on-one in coverage. Of Rodgers' 21 touchdown passes this season, just two used a pick to create space, and they were both within two yards of the end zone. Two of the touchdowns included stacked receivers, but one didn't create an open receiver and required Rodgers to improvise and create a throwing lane for a score.

I dunno what happened to MM but he lost his offensive touch. I thought he was ahead of the curve back in 2011 when we ran spread offense and ran teams off the field with the Big 5. Would be interesting to go back and watch some of those games. Were we really just thinking due to superior talent?

[gbgary]

Philbin is a candidate. I hope that is just to give him some measure of control over the locker room. Because in no way do I want Philbin as HC.

exactly.

[Bretsky]

I was pretty impressed for the media group. They asked some tough questions! Way to go guys!

I'll bet even red was impressed.

KUDOS TO THE MEDIA

WHAT WAS BAFFLING....was how Murphy didn't really seem to understand their general concerns and points. Like it was over his head.

Is Mark Murphy playing a Jerry Jones type role in GB

I hate the setup too

[call_me_ishmael]

I have zero faith in Mark Murphy. I just don't buy him as a premier football mind. Maybe that's completely unfair, IDK, there is just something about him that rubs me the wrong way.

I know they're never gone say they'll let ARod have a say in the matter, but does anyone really believe that? I would be shocked if ARod doesn't sit down with the coach before a hiring is made. Let's not forget ARod makes way more money than either Murph or Gooter (presumably, anyway)

[Pugger]

I doubt that Murphy gave in to McCarthy on the GM choice. If he wanted Ball over Gutekunst, he would have hired Ball.

McCarthy made a power play and it didn't work out for him in the long run. With the way things went this year, Murphy would have fired McCarthy anyway; but I doubt McCarthy's ultimatum, if it in fact was made won any points with Murphy. If McCarthy was not loyal to and respectful of the job Murphy had to do, why should he receive any favors from Murphy? McCarthy overplayed his place on the org chart and overestimated his perceived value to the organization.

Murphy hinted in his presser on Monday that there was talk about firing McCarthy in 2016 after they started out with only 4 wins. But then the team went on a tear.

[Pugger]

Great post Fritz.

But to elaborate on the structure, I am not as worried about it now as I was before the firing. Still not my preference, but now Murphy will be responsible for the whole enchilada if he hires a coach AND hired the GM the year before. If it goes bad, out goes Murphy. Given his comments, I am not expecting a change.

Murphy has said that 17 teams, including the Steelers, have a GM and HC reporting to an owner/President. So its not unworkable. I would prefer the GM in charge, but I don't think Murphy is in the same bad spot the Exec Committee was after Lombardi. Just have to hope he isn't Judge Parins I guess.

One thing in Murphy's favor is he is a football guy. He was a player for 8 years, He was the 'Skins' player rep to the NFLPA. He was the DA of Colgate and Northwestern Universities so he's had some experience in hiring coaches.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I think everyone would

Well then, token interview Norm Chow immediately to exploit the Rooney Rule, then type up J-Mac’s contract. Dink and dunk all day!

As Tex or Mad would say, the paddy (McCarthy) is dead, long live the paddy! (McDaniels)

[Joemailman]

KUDOS TO THE MEDIA

WHAT WAS BAFFLING....was how Murphy didn't really seem to understand their general concerns and points. Like it was over his head.

Is Mark Murphy playing a Jerry Jones type role in GB

I hate the setup too

I kind of agree with Murphy. Everybody's too worried about the organizational structure. Different structures can work if you have the right people. People can say that having the GM hire the coach has worked for the Packers in the past, but if Ted Thompson had hired Scott Linehan or Herm Edwards instead of Mike McCarthy, there would have been no 8 straight playoff berths. And certainly no Lombardi Trophy.

[bobblehead]

Aaron was beyond terrible his first pre-season and his first regular season. It took two years of MM before he became the ARod we know.

"Potential #1 pick" - you are who you are. He wasn't Andrew Luck. He was picked #24 because he was not a sure thing, had jacked up mechanics, etc.

At the time there was speculation whether SF would take ARod or Alex Smith #1...so yes, he was a potential #1 pick. It was unknown which way they would go up until the draft. Luck was also not a lock #1, there was plenty of personnel people who thought RG3 was the better pick.

[bobblehead]

Do two wrongs make a right? Based on your political posts, it does appear you think it does. That said, I disagree with your assessment on MM here anyway.

I have never advocated 2 wrongs make a right. I am saying that you get treated like you treat others. And nothing in my FYI posts EVER says 2 wrongs make a right. I am a huge critic of Trump for being a general douchebag, same as I was when anyone on the left acts that way. I also don't say "but the left does it" I simply point out that when the left does it you think its cool, or lack outrage, but when the right does it you think its the end of the fricking world. Very different from me thinking its ok.

[pbmax]

Where does McCarthy end up? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-want-and-need

Best paragraph of the month:

The Jets

Replace "Baker Mayfield" with "Sam Darnold" and McCarthy to the Jets makes as much sense as McCarthy to the Browns. Even McCarthy's most predictable game plans would be a major step up from the current Jets offense, whose signature play is a punt from midfield while trailing late in the game.

[bobblehead]

Or maybe you're the idiot.

For a guy with only 8 lifetime posts, this is pretty good.

[bobblehead]

I have zero faith in Mark Murphy. I just don't buy him as a premier football mind. Maybe that's completely unfair, IDK, there is just something about him that rubs me the wrong way.

I know they're never gone say they'll let ARod have a say in the matter, but does anyone really believe that? I would be shocked if ARod doesn't sit down with the coach before a hiring is made. Let's not forget ARod makes way more money than either Murph or Gooter (presumably, anyway)

Arod makes more money than a civil engineer also...should he build the next bridge?

[call_me_ishmael]

Great interview with Jay Glazer. Seems like everybody liked ol' Mac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDxMbw1WUHE&feature=youtu.be

[Fritz]

We Packer fans are indeed spoiled. If a Detroit head coach can get to the playoffs and win one playoff game, he'd be the most successful Lions coach in over twenty years.

For you oldsters, Wayne Fontes is the most successful coach this franchise has had since one seaon from Joe Schmidt in 1970.