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Back to the subject, I find the Siragusa signing very interesting. He was a 4th round pick in 2017 who missed all season with torn ACL, MCL and PCL in camp. Second surgery this off season ruined chances for off season work. Reportedly was still recovering during this year's camp, and was waived injured, then signed to practice squad by the Ravens.
If Madison returns, the Packers will have two decent prospects at guard, neither of whom has gotten his career started as he would have liked.
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His agent has said he intends to play again. The Packers have said they expect him to, and fully support him in his reasons for not reporting this year.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostIs there any reason to think Madison had a change of heart and wants to play in the NFL?
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I looked less than a month ago and saw nothing. Hope to see the guy in camp next year. I thought he had good feet in pass pro, which is all his college team did. I think they ran the ball four times his entire senior year.Originally posted by Patler View PostHis agent has said he intends to play again. The Packers have said they expect him to, and fully support him in his reasons for not reporting this year."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Kinda tells you what you knew going in - The good offensive teams have great LT pass pro. Packers have two very good linemen, and three sacks of fertilizer in uniform.Originally posted by Pugger View Post"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I don't know if I'd call Bulaga fertilizer. When healthy he's fine. His problem is staying on the field. Lane Taylor isn't terrible either. But we do need a RG and more depth on that line for sure.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostKinda tells you what you knew going in - The good offensive teams have great LT pass pro. Packers have two very good linemen, and three sacks of fertilizer in uniform.
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I want to agree with you but when exactly in recent memory has Bulaga been 'healthy?'Originally posted by Pugger View PostI don't know if I'd call Bulaga fertilizer. When healthy he's fine. His problem is staying on the field. Lane Taylor isn't terrible either. But we do need a RG and more depth on that line for sure.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Oh, but for the record, I was referring to SPRIGGS™ Taylor and whomever they toss in at RG. Taylor can be better than he is. Maybe he is Scotts premium winter fertilizer.Originally posted by Pugger View PostI don't know if I'd call Bulaga fertilizer.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I feel bad for Bulaga; he's a good player..really good. When healthy he's borderline pro bowl and he's played through some injuries and has been very loyal. But his body just seems to breakdown.
Sally Spriggs; he's not good. He's really not good.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Agree on both players. Bulaga was a starting RT in the Super Bowl as a 21 year old rookie. Spriggs can't be counted on in his 3rd year. The guy just has too many plays where he doesn't even slow down the guy he's blocking. If he was going to excel, I think we would have seen signs of it by now.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostI feel bad for Bulaga; he's a good player..really good. When healthy he's borderline pro bowl and he's played through some injuries and has been very loyal. But his body just seems to breakdown.
Sally Spriggs; he's not good. He's really not good.
I still think they should consider moving Bulaga inside to Guard. The injuries have likely robbed him of lateral mobility which is more of a problem at Tackle than at Guard. With 3 picks in the top 50, time to draft his replacement at RT.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Joemailman, Bretsky and Deputy Nutz had the Packers taking Siragusa in the 2017 Packerrats Draft Contest. Better late than never I guess. http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...est&highlight=Originally posted by Patler View PostBack to the subject, I find the Siragusa signing very interesting. He was a 4th round pick in 2017 who missed all season with torn ACL, MCL and PCL in camp. Second surgery this off season ruined chances for off season work. Reportedly was still recovering during this year's camp, and was waived injured, then signed to practice squad by the Ravens.
If Madison returns, the Packers will have two decent prospects at guard, neither of whom has gotten his career started as he would have liked.
Siragusa should be a serious candidate for the RG position in camp next year.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Last couple drafts were weak for OL, and that is showing now. We really needed to keep Tretter to play G. Biggest mistakes TT made were letting Tretter, Hyde and Hayward walk. These weren't bankbusting contracts.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostWithout a question the offensive line is a disaster. The Packers have a solid center in Linsley, a capable LT in Bacteria - when healthy - and absolutely nothing else. Taylor was a promising light last year, but he has regressed. Maybe he can be a long term backup at guard. Bulaga is done. McCray is stop gap at best. Bell is a non factor - he can't even jog 10 yards onto the field without suffering extreme exhaustion. Packers need to draft the best Tackle in the draft and solidify that spot for the rest of Rodgers' run. They need to draft at least one guard, more likely two, and bring in another, and bring in a tackle in FA who can back up both spots.
This is top priority because they have an aging QB, they have running backs who can run, but they can't protect the QB and can't run block worth crap. Solving the O line will protect the franchise and can help solve a lot of ills elsewhere by helping to establish an offense that can possess the ball.
I know people are looking at pass rush/LBs, a defensive back (Safety), TE, and maybe a WR, but they can't afford to get Rodgers killed and have such an inefficient offense because they have no line. Fixing that will help hide other cracks in the roster.
So, I'm not much of a college guy/draftnik. Who do people like as O-line prospects?The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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