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I mostly worry about him - and other coaches who put on so much weight. It's not good for 'em. Denny Green (a very nice guy, BTW) died too young from complications."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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McCarthy would be walking into a very Packer situation with Rosen and the Cardinals. They blew apart a great D to bring in a new system and it backfired spectacularly and he'd have a young QB to mold.
Gonna need to do it on the fly; no Favre and no Jennings to help.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Yeah, that was my thought too -- with proper coaching Rosen could turn out good. Fitzgerald is retiring, yes? They still have David Johnson, Christian Kirk, and a few players on D (Chandler Jones, P.Peterson) so he'd have a few pieces to work with, but IIRC their OL is a disaster. Definitely a rebuild project out there though. Maybe they could overpay for some of GB's FA's and give Gute some '20 comp picks.Originally posted by pbmax View PostMcCarthy would be walking into a very Packer situation with Rosen and the Cardinals. They blew apart a great D to bring in a new system and it backfired spectacularly and he'd have a young QB to mold.
Gonna need to do it on the fly; no Favre and no Jennings to help.
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I knock myself when I gain weight too. Its not a knock as much as just a thing. I like to eat. I go through periods of starvation to get it back under control. It don't make fat mike a bad person, just a fat person. Stubby on the other hand is an insult of personality.Originally posted by Vincenzo View PostNever really could get the weight gain knock on the guy. Do you know how many men gain weight in their 50’s? - it’s about as natural as a receding hairline or it going grey. I guess the pressure of the job was obviously getting to him and over-eating was his release. Andy Reid and Rex Ryan are other examples.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Originally posted by bobblehead View PostHe is only the 3rd best packer coach, yet you call him top 20 all time? Not even close. He WAS a very good coach. One who could definitely win with talent. His entire offense is yesterday and unless he shows some ability to use a RB out of the backfield or a TE in the middle of the field he will never be a winning coach again unless he has a healthy HOF QB at his disposal.
Sort by winning percentage. He's number 20, and would be 19 if not for a rough year this year obviously.
Ball don't lie - so why do you? My post was 100% factual and accurate. Was yours?
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Given the openings, I think this is the right call for Mike. Take some time off, enjoy life with the kids, etc. If Baker Mayfield was in a less dysfunctional place, I'd definitely listen. What other opening has a QB outside of GB?
McCarthy doesn't intend to pursue the opening, though Arizona would've been willing to move on from GM Steve Keim
Next year, he might have a very legitimate chance to coach Big Ben and the epitome of stable organizations. That's worth waiting for in my opinion.
Edit: Man, it's tough, 'cause Cleveland has legit talent, Mayfield looks the part, and they have a top notch GM in Dorsey. Still though, they're fricking Cleveland and Jimmy Haslem is bad for business.Last edited by call_me_ishmael; 12-31-2018, 12:06 AM.
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You didn't say top 20 best winning % in history, you said top 20 coach in history. He is not. So your revisionist logic is typical you. And your original post was an opinion therefore neither accurate nor inaccurate. My rebuttal was also opinion. Ball may not lie, but CMI does...often.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Posthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_with_50_wins
Sort by winning percentage. He's number 20, and would be 19 if not for a rough year this year obviously.
Ball don't lie - so why do you? My post was 100% factual and accurate. Was yours?The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Go away. You are exactly what your record says you are. And his record says he's a top 20 coach in NFL history. Now bugger off, yeah?Originally posted by bobblehead View PostYou didn't say top 20 best winning % in history, you said top 20 coach in history. He is not. So your revisionist logic is typical you. And your original post was an opinion therefore neither accurate nor inaccurate. My rebuttal was also opinion. Ball may not lie, but CMI does...often.
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Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostGo away. You are exactly what your record says you are. And his record says he's a top 20 coach in NFL history. Now bugger off, yeah?
Gee, there is more than one way to assess.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Speaking of 100% factual and accurate, McCarthy's record was 125-77-2 - a shade under 62%. That puts him 3% lower than Mike Sherman 52-28 - 65%. So are you saying Sherman also was in the top 20 all time, somewhere above McCarthy? Myself, I always had a high opinion of Sherman, but a lot of the posters in here didn't seem to share that opinion.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Posthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_with_50_wins
Sort by winning percentage. He's number 20, and would be 19 if not for a rough year this year obviously.
Ball don't lie - so why do you? My post was 100% factual and accurate. Was yours?
3rd best Packer coach? Obviously Lombardi and Holmgren were better any way you look at it. It's hard to put McCarthy ahead of the guy they named the stadium for, though. And by your own standard, Sherman has McCarthy beat.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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