THE MOST IMPORTANT QB STAT

[texaspackerbacker]

I'll address this mainly to the whiners and ingrates who have been bad-mouthing Aaron Rodgers in this forum and elsewhere and yammering about how he should change:

The GOAT QB just broke the record today held by possibly the second greatest QB of all time in what is IMO the most important stat of all: not throwing interceptions - 359 and more after the record breaker, and counting consecutive passes.

A lot has been said about getting rid of the ball quick - IMO a recipe for throwing more interceptions, as almost happened a couple of times today. Using mobility/moving around and throwing the ball downfield, as Rodgers does better than anybody else probably ever, not only gives you the chance for those big plays, but it lessens the prospect of getting picked off.

[Rutnstrut]

I'll address this mainly to the whiners and ingrates who have been bad-mouthing Aaron Rodgers in this forum and elsewhere and yammering about how he should change:

The GOAT QB just broke the record today held by possibly the second greatest QB of all time in what is IMO the most important stat of all: not throwing interceptions - 359 and more after the record breaker, and counting consecutive passes.

A lot has been said about getting rid of the ball quick - IMO a recipe for throwing more interceptions, as almost happened a couple of times today. Using mobility/moving around and throwing the ball downfield, as Rodgers does better than anybody else probably ever, not only gives you the chance for those big plays, but it lessens the prospect of getting picked off.

That record will look awesome when he is sitting at home watching the superb owl.

[Joemailman]

I'll address this mainly to the whiners and ingrates who have been bad-mouthing Aaron Rodgers in this forum and elsewhere and yammering about how he should change:

The GOAT QB just broke the record today held by possibly the second greatest QB of all time in what is IMO the most important stat of all: not throwing interceptions - 359 and more after the record breaker, and counting consecutive passes.

A lot has been said about getting rid of the ball quick - IMO a recipe for throwing more interceptions, as almost happened a couple of times today. Using mobility/moving around and throwing the ball downfield, as Rodgers does better than anybody else probably ever, not only gives you the chance for those big plays, but it lessens the prospect of getting picked off.

Rodgers is 11th in the NFL in TD passes, and Packers are 16th in points scored. If not throwing interceptions really was the most important stat, then those rankings would be better.

[ThunderDan]

I will say this. Not throwing ints helps the team. But it is not be all and end all of important statistics.

[pbmax]

I will say this. Not throwing ints helps the team. But it is not be all and end all of important statistics.

I suspect the actual best mix would be a few more INTs that would yield a good number of more TDs. But its easy to overstate this. Packers not overflowing with WR talent.

I do hope someone can get the offense back to some semblance of progressions.

[mraynrand]

I do hope someone can get the offense back to some semblance of progressions.

+1. The current MO is to manipulate the defense into getting the primary read you want, seeing it pre-snap, and using other receivers as decoys. When the primary read breaks down, Rodgers does the EO, running around like chicken sans head and taking sacks or running the ball if someone doesn't juke open on the scramble drill. Gotta have better from the other WR patterns - maybe have actual patterns. And with that OPI that Graham picked up, you can see how rusty the team is in just carrying out basic rubs on crossing patterns.

[mraynrand]

As for this stat, I'd much rather see north of 50% on third down conversions, especially since I know this team fails on third downs because their scheme puts them in too many third and longs. But yeah, fewer INTs is generally good.

[call_me_ishmael]

The most important QB stat is obviously wins. The second most important one is some combination of completion percentage paired with yards per attempt and interception rate. To that end, you're like 20% right.

[call_me_ishmael]

so there ya go

[call_me_ishmael]

We've gone from watching Favre throw into septuple coverage, and get picked off, to watching Rodgers throw it away, because there's a defender on the same field as the receiver. Surely we can find a happy medium, right?

LOL!!!

[pbmax]

+1. The current MO is to manipulate the defense into getting the primary read you want, seeing it pre-snap, and using other receivers as decoys. When the primary read breaks down, Rodgers does the EO, running around like chicken sans head and taking sacks or running the ball if someone doesn't juke open on the scramble drill. Gotta have better from the other WR patterns - maybe have actual patterns. And with that OPI that Graham picked up, you can see how rusty the team is in just carrying out basic rubs on crossing patterns.

Exactly. It’s an offense built on alerts. Favre did this too. He sometimes played from memory of previous routes rather than read the field.

[gbgary]

comp %, yards/completion, td/int ratio. wins is not a qb stat. of his 53 t/a's i'd guess over half had someone open early and very often had someone open right where he threw it away. that's drive-killing, momentum-killing, inefficiency. at least he used the middle of the field a tad more yesterday.

[texaspackerbacker]

+1. The current MO is to manipulate the defense into getting the primary read you want, seeing it pre-snap, and using other receivers as decoys. When the primary read breaks down, Rodgers does the EO, running around like chicken sans head and taking sacks or running the ball if someone doesn't juke open on the scramble drill. Gotta have better from the other WR patterns - maybe have actual patterns. And with that OPI that Graham picked up, you can see how rusty the team is in just carrying out basic rubs on crossing patterns.

I suppose that's a biased but fair description what the Packers do at times. It got us 34 points on not to bad a defense last Sunday before we took our foot off the gas. I'd much rather have that than a lot of wasted downs on running plays. The scramble drill that you describe is pretty much the best option when the O Line can't just play it straight up and stop the pass rush. As for that basic rub thing/legal picks, I'm fairly sure the Packers do that a lot as well as the quick screen to Adams or another WR.

The thing several people in here have advocated is getting rid of the ball quick as a means of compensating for the poor pass blocking. I say again, that is a recipe for interceptions - as we saw a couple of times against the Falcons when the streak was almost broken.

Rand, you also said you'd rather have a better percentage of 3rd down conversions than a lack of interceptions. We would all like that better percentage on 3rd down, but absolutely not at the risk of interceptions. Giving up possession 40 or so yards down field on a 4th down punt is not ideal, but it beats the hell out of giving up the ball and maybe a quick touchdown on an interception.

[pbmax]

comp %, yards/completion, td/int ratio. wins is not a qb stat. of his 53 t/a's i'd guess over half had someone open early and very often had someone open right where he threw it away. that's drive-killing, momentum-killing, inefficiency. at least he used the middle of the field a tad more yesterday.

Except for that one drive featuring Jones, the offense looked a lot like the 4th quarter comeback offense.

A third of the throws went to Davante.

[pbmax]

Packers were 7 for 13 on third down yesterday.