Interesting posts Bobble and PB. In rearview mirror, it seems the best approach would have been to just allow the kneeling. Let the players make the statement they want and live with the consequences in the public arena. BTW, I think the change this year is pretty much that the networks, seeing the ratings, realized they just had to ignore the whole thing. I've said before I don't think the ratings drop were really due all that much to the protests, but the NFL and networks sure did.
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Very well stated.Originally posted by pbmax View PostMost jobs don't hire the National Guard to do a flag ceremony every day at work and have a flyover on Friday morning either.
Most companies have a flag outside the building. When it the last time your company lined up everyone outside for the Pledge or the National Anthem?
The owners wanted to cash in on patriotic fever when the country seemed under attack (and later at war) but they didn't actually want politics intruding on the League. It was all a PR stunt with the players dragged out after 2009.
Taking cues from sports leagues leads to bad outcomes.
I don't recall the origin, but something like "I do not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it".
Or something like that.
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Don't misunderstand me, they can say wtf they want, but not on my dime. The owners can allow wtf they want, but I will make sure that not a dollar of mine flows into their coffers while supporting that. A lot of people have done the same and its hurting them like it or not.Originally posted by QBME View PostVery well stated.
I don't recall the origin, but something like "I do not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it".
Or something like that.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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If I were living the dull life doing other people’s taxes as a CPA (ala thunderdan) for a gainful salary instead of flipping burgers for the minimum-wage (as society is forcing me to do), i’d get myself a mail-order bride, plant my seed and buy a nice house in the suburbs. And in that house, I’d forbid any bigoted protests.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostThis shows how badly the NFL botched the entire situation. I won't watch any game that any player kneels during the anthem. Its a ridiculous issue. NFL should have a no kneeling policy and someone should sign kap as a backup. Most employers don't allow political speech on the job. One side or the other gets pissed. NFL botched it so bad they pissed off both sides.
All but the Rams’ new stadium are publicly funded. NFL stadiums are prefect for the protestations of social maladies. The protesters protested peacefully and their protestations only lasted for the duration of the goddamned anthem. Nothing wrong or evil.
The pig owners would rather exile someone fighting the good fight than rapists and murderers. Shaking my head.Last edited by Guest; 12-29-2018, 04:26 AM.
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The affect on ratings was publicly overstated at a minimum, but both parties wanted the topic out of the news.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostInteresting posts Bobble and PB. In rearview mirror, it seems the best approach would have been to just allow the kneeling. Let the players make the statement they want and live with the consequences in the public arena. BTW, I think the change this year is pretty much that the networks, seeing the ratings, realized they just had to ignore the whole thing. I've said before I don't think the ratings drop were really due all that much to the protests, but the NFL and networks sure did.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Originally posted by bobblehead View PostDon't misunderstand me, they can say wtf they want, but not on my dime. The owners can allow wtf they want, but I will make sure that not a dollar of mine flows into their coffers while supporting that. A lot of people have done the same and its hurting them like it or not.
How 'bout dem Lions???
Big game this week!"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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The Lions of Detroit, by George R.R. MartinOriginally posted by Fritz View PostHow 'bout dem Lions???
Big game this week!
And who are you, the proud lord said,
That I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
That's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
A lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
As long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
That lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
With no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
And not a soul to hear.
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