Pettine

[texaspackerbacker]

Do we already have a thread on him? I really don't give a damn - and I really wouldn't give a damn if he isn't the D Coordinator next season. It always irked me that there was so much pissing and moaning about Capers. Well ya'all pissers and moaners got rid of him, and is our D better? the same? or worse? I'd say worse. Part of that, of course, is still personnel, but I really haven't noticed anything creative or praiseworthy from Pettine's schemes - less so even than the much maligned Capers.

[Pugger]

I thought I saw improvement in our defense under Pettine until our starters dropping like flies this year.

[ND72]

local sports radio last year said "if you think it's scheme, it's Capers. If you think it's players, it's Thompson."

I think it was both. And we have more work today on the player part before we can see substantial improvement.

[red]

defense is definitely better, but not by enough

to me it looked too much like the capers system, just without all the confusion in the secondary on every single play

[red]

local sports radio last year said "if you think it's scheme, it's Capers. If you think it's players, it's Thompson."

I think it was both. And we have more work today on the player part before we can see substantial improvement.

defense is 4 lines. the line, the line backers the corners and the safeties

we currently have no starters at LB, other then the white mexican, and no starting safeties

thats 5 starters we have to find for next season on defense

[QBME]

Fer cryin' out loud. The Packers had 4 - freakin' 4 - opening day defensive starters beginning the game today ( zero on the D Line). Pettine has done an outstanding job. Go shovel snow.

[yetisnowman]

^^^^What QBME said. The Packers are average to below average statistically on defense. That's pretty damn good considering the injuries and general lack of personnel. Not to mention an offense that struggled to put drives together for long stretches of the season. I really didn't see a lot of schematic gaffes, just a coordinator trying his best to get stops with a roster full of JAGS and backups.

[Bretsky]

the majority of the problem goes to ThanksTed and that goes for last year as well.

And MM didn't help by pushing to get rid of a starter for Kizer

[pbmax]

Packers missed Randall after all

He might have outlasted Stubby if he could have avoided opening his yap at the end of the year.

[mraynrand]

Packers missed Randall after all

He might have outlasted Stubby if he could have avoided opening his yap at the end of the year.

Ankle biter had a rough outing today - at least the part I saw.

[Bretsky]

Packers missed Randall after all

He might have outlasted Stubby if he could have avoided opening his yap at the end of the year.

On ESPN 1070 last week they got into Packer Failures and noted how McCarthy always really liked Kizer and wanted GB to draft him had he feel a few picks later in round 2. They thought he could not get along with Randall and pushed Guter to make the deal

I have always thought he's the close of Hundley and neither of them were good enough.

I'd have preferred a 4th round draft pick for Randall...…….and probably would have just preferred keeping Randall and starting him

[The Shadow]

Fangio. Fangio. Fangio.

[ND72]

Fer cryin' out loud. The Packers had 4 - freakin' 4 - opening day defensive starters beginning the game today ( zero on the D Line). Pettine has done an outstanding job. Go shovel snow.

No i agree with this. I felt our defense was a lot more competitive but injuries just destroyed us. That and Brice can't cover or tackle and Dix was shitty. King shows he can play, but can't stay healthy. that's 3 DB starters. we have no pass rush, and had no starting DL guys.

[Carolina_Packer]

Pettine was bringing a knife to a gunfight pretty much every week. Gotta give him some credit. Gutekunst had inherited runners on base after Thomson walked the bases loaded.

[texaspackerbacker]

4 opening day starters? So who were the 7 that were gone? Clark and Daniels - the damage was pretty much done by the time they went down; Clinton-Dix - most of us saw that as no great loss; Perry - I'd say his replacements - Fackrell and Gilbert, were better than Perry even when not injured; Randall, did he start Week 1? - Alexander, Breeland, etc. were way better; Kevin King, did he start? - potential, but his play was no better than the replacements; Wilkerson? - no great loss, Lowery etc. played better; Did I leave anybody out? While the personnel was arguably pretty lame, it was no worse than at the start of the season and arguably better than what Capers had to compensate for.

I'd say Gutekunst did a fair to good job of getting players off the scrap heap, several of whom may contribute next season. As for Pettine, I say again, he was damn little or no improvement over Capers.