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The six highest paid QBs in the nfl all missed the playoffs this year
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4,442 yards passing, 25 TD passes, 2 interceptions - both on deflections, another 269 rushing yards and 2 more TDs. I guess a few QBs around the league might have done better ...... damn few.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostThere is no statistical or observational support for this statement whatsoever. But, hope springs eternal.
Whiners gonna whine; Ingrates gonna piss and moan; Whatever.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Frankly the Packers just suck. It was getting there for the last few years and it's defnitely now arrived. This fact is too obvious.Originally posted by gbgary View Postyes the market is the market but why bump the market 10+%, 2 years early, on a qb coming off a throwing arm injury, who's 35 year's old, for 6 more years? your team's best players all got old at the same time and it's in need of a rebuild...badly in need of a rebuild. they should have waited. after this year do you think they'd still offer $33.5m/yr with a year left on his contract? nope. they'd see what cousins gave min for 30 and laugh. they'd have said "the current market has topped out. let's do 3 at $28 fully guaranteed. take it or leave it. we've got a rebuild to do."...if they were smart.
Tear up the old and definitely and immediately begin toi install the new.
We need to see a brand new 'three year plan' and just hope Aaron Rodgers can still execute. He has a lot to respond to over the next two Seasons. Was he prematurely overpaid. What was the reason for 'the rush' to give him so much of the CAP? We all should have been aware that MM was done. That there were obvious issues between him and Aaron Rodgers was in our face the TRUTH. The body language spoke mountains.
So we have the QB and that's big. Let's see the Teams Brass put the talent around him that he needs 'on both sides of the ball' and starting now.
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He is still really good. Not $33 million good, but we could win a super OWL with him. Problem is we don't have the supporting cast unless about 6 things break the correct way. Odds of going 6 for 6...slim.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post4,442 yards passing, 25 TD passes, 2 interceptions - both on deflections, another 269 rushing yards and 2 more TDs. I guess a few QBs around the league might have done better ...... damn few.
Whiners gonna whine; Ingrates gonna piss and moan; Whatever.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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From the LINK in red's post:
" There’s a reason the Patriots have been so successful when Tom Brady has been at quarterback. It’s because Brady takes a crazy discount every year. He allows the Patriots to build a strong middle of the roster because they don’t have to spend so much money on their star player. Look at some of the successful teams that have won Super Bowls and made the playoffs recently. they do it when their quarterback is on a cheap contract. The Seahawks built the Legion of Boom because Russell Wilson was paid well below market rate on a rookie contract. This year the Rams — Jared Goff — Bears — Mitch Trubisky — Texans — Deshaun Watson — Cowboys — Dak Prescott — Ravens — Lamar Jackson — and Chiefs — Patrick Mahomes — are all on rookie deals. It allows their teams to spend money elsewhere. We could even include the Eagles in this list. "** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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what do you think they're in the midst of right now? it started with the TT & MM firings. they just handicapped themselves in a big way with the Rodgers contract though...and it may not fully happen while he's still good because of it.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostIt's bonehead STUPID to suggest rebuilding.Last edited by gbgary; 12-31-2018, 12:48 PM.
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Then the thing to do is obviously to get the supporting cast. We actually aren't as far from that as some people seem to think. Every time I criticize the O Line I hear from some how it ain't really that bad. Skill players: our RBs and WRs are plenty good enough IMO. Having a coach who will make a little bit better use of them should help. Our D could use some improvement, but there are a lot of believers in Pettine, and we've had some damn good years with D that was nothing special anyway.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostHe is still really good. Not $33 million good, but we could win a super OWL with him. Problem is we don't have the supporting cast unless about 6 things break the correct way. Odds of going 6 for 6...slim.
Bottom line is, yes, we do need some things to break the right way - or at least not to break horribly the wrong way like this year ........ In other words, LUCK.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I’m not whining. You claimed he was the greatest QB in the league. He’s not.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post4,442 yards passing, 25 TD passes, 2 interceptions - both on deflections, another 269 rushing yards and 2 more TDs. I guess a few QBs around the league might have done better ...... damn few.
Whiners gonna whine; Ingrates gonna piss and moan; Whatever."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I don't know what your idea of rebuilding is, but when I hear that damn word, I think of tearing down, planning on at least a few bad years, getting rid of good players, etc. Think Raiders this year. the Niners a few years back, others I will leave for others to bring up. That shit is for losers; I don't ever under any circumstance want any team I love in any sport to be that STUPID.Originally posted by gbgary View Postwhat do you think they're in the midst of right now? it started with the TT & MM firings. they just handicapped themselves in a big way with the Rodgers contract though...and it may not fully happen while he's still good because of it.
Now if you're talking about rebuilding "on the fly" - having some turnover of players as needed, upgrading, etc., which I wouldn't even call rebuilding, then hell yeah, we gotta do what we gotta do - and that starts with keeping the GOAT QB who still should have 5 or more excellent years left.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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You talked (whined) about stats; I checked on Mahomes, Goff, Brady, Brees, and Wilson, and only Mahomes had clearly better stats in terms of yardage, TDs, interceptions, the whole picture. So if Mahomes can keep that up for 10 or 15 more years, he can be the GOAT. For this year, I'll just claim that based on stats, Rodgers was the second best in the league. And based observation - which you also talked about, Rodgers had a helluva lot lesser supporting cast than Mahomes or any of the rest of those.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostI’m not whining. You claimed he was the greatest QB in the league. He’s not.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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they don't have any choice but to do it on the fly at this point.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostI don't know what your idea of rebuilding is, but when I hear that damn word, I think of tearing down, planning on at least a few bad years, getting rid of good players, etc. Think Raiders this year. the Niners a few years back, others I will leave for others to bring up. That shit is for losers; I don't ever under any circumstance want any team I love in any sport to be that STUPID.
Now if you're talking about rebuilding "on the fly" - having some turnover of players as needed, upgrading, etc., which I wouldn't even call rebuilding, then hell yeah, we gotta do what we gotta do - and that starts with keeping the GOAT QB who still should have 5 or more excellent years left.
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Just to get this straight, at the end of 2016 we had 70 players on the roster including IR and practice squadOriginally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostI don't know what your idea of rebuilding is, but when I hear that damn word, I think of tearing down, planning on at least a few bad years, getting rid of good players, etc.
Of those 70 we now have 20 of those players left on the team. We have turned over 70+% of our roster in two years.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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