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  • #91
    Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
    I keep hearing that the Pack will sign Earl Thomas. Thoughts on this happening and if it does he'll be even close to his HOF form?
    That's the guy I want. Very reminiscent of Charles Woodson signing in my opinion. 29 years old. Off of serious leg injury. Deserved a contract but other team wouldn't byte. HOFer.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
      That's the guy I want. Very reminiscent of Charles Woodson signing in my opinion. 29 years old. Off of serious leg injury. Deserved a contract but other team wouldn't byte. HOFer.
      One thing you can say about fans: they ain't logical. Kevin King, Justin Harrell, etc, etc...every time the Packers draft a guy who ends up getting injured (whether or not it's related to a college injury), we're all bitterly complaining about choosing guys who are injury prone.

      But throw a free agent name out there, someone we've heard of, and it doesn't matter that he's older and has broken a leg, or has torn two ACL's and ripped up a knee AND would cost more than a rookie contract - we want him, and by golly, if the Packers' brass doesn't outbid everyone and sign him, it means they don't want to win.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #93
        Thomas has missed major portions of 2 of his last 3 seasons with significant leg injuries. His specialty was playing single high safety and being able to get to each sideline with fantastic speed.

        I don't know if that is still in his future.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #94
          I'm more in the Landon Collins camp if we're going to spend money on a S.
          All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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          • #95
            Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
            Starting today and until March 5, there could be at least 10 players receiving some form of a tag: DeMarcus Lawrence, Jadeveon Clowney, Dee Ford, Frank Clark, Gardy Jarrett, Landon Collins, Nick Foles, Le’Veon Bell, Donovan Smith, Robbie Gould and Stephen Gostkowski, per sources.

            Pretty sure that is Grady Jarrett.

            Collins likely to get tag according to Schefterson. Same with Dee Ford.

            Eagles are going to have to do some major maneuvering to get Foles tag under their cap. Is it really worth it for a 2nd round pick?
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              One thing you can say about fans: they ain't logical. Kevin King, Justin Harrell, etc, etc...every time the Packers draft a guy who ends up getting injured (whether or not it's related to a college injury), we're all bitterly complaining about choosing guys who are injury prone.

              But throw a free agent name out there, someone we've heard of, and it doesn't matter that he's older and has broken a leg, or has torn two ACL's and ripped up a knee AND would cost more than a rookie contract - we want him, and by golly, if the Packers' brass doesn't outbid everyone and sign him, it means they don't want to win.
              Hard to argue with that. I think part of it is the results when healthy. Both Chuck and Thomas were HOF type players that aren't available unless something is wrong with them.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Thomas has missed major portions of 2 of his last 3 seasons with significant leg injuries. His specialty was playing single high safety and being able to get to each sideline with fantastic speed.

                I don't know if that is still in his future.
                Broken legs caused him to miss 5 games in 2016 and 12 games in 2018. A hamstring caused him to miss 2 games in 2017. Before that, he was a 16 games/year guy. I don't have any personal experiences with broken legs. Could those affect his speed?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Broken legs caused him to miss 5 games in 2016 and 12 games in 2018. A hamstring caused him to miss 2 games in 2017. Before that, he was a 16 games/year guy. I don't have any personal experiences with broken legs. Could those affect his speed?
                  I don't know, all my casts were the result of soft tissue injuries. It would depend on how they heal I would guess. But the injuries plus age aren't making him faster.

                  I would not sign him and expect 3 years of sideline to sideline coverage as before.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #99
                    Yep...thats my worry as well. Doubtful that he'd be a bargain to sign and the injury history the last couple of years is scary.
                    C.H.U.D.

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                    • Earl Thomas probably isn't going to be cheap. Mathieu might offer the most value, if you can get him for 3 years 12 million or so. I make those numbers up because I have know idea how much he really makes.

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                      • Like I said in the draft thread, I'm not too worried about safety.

                        Defense starts up front, and the Packers are as pedestrian as they come.

                        Two guys in FA I'd have bullseyes on if I were Gute, would be,

                        Shaquil Barrett, OLB, Broncos
                        and
                        Preston Smith, Edge, Redskins

                        Either one of those guys would be a major upgrade over Perry and Matthews.

                        Signing one of those guys would also take the pressure off to land an Edge guy in the draft; although, it wouldn't stop me from grabbing Polite or Burns.
                        wist

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                        • Addition by subtraction.

                          Cut Perry

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                          • Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
                            Yep...thats my worry as well. Doubtful that he'd be a bargain to sign and the injury history the last couple of years is scary.
                            I'm not too concerned about the last three years at all, except that they have made him three years older!

                            Unless he has some type of bone deficiency or abnormality, the two broken legs seem to be "wrong place, wrong time" types of injuries from which I would expect him to recover. Perhaps his playing style puts him in the "wrong place, wrong time" situations more commonly, but the Packers have missed that type of play on defense for a long time. I would be more concerned if he had multiple foot fractures, or something like that. A single hamstring issue in the exact middle of 2017, causing him to miss two games but return to play the final 7 games, seems minor.

                            Count me as unconcerned about his injury history.

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                            • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                              Earl Thomas probably isn't going to be cheap. Mathieu might offer the most value, if you can get him for 3 years 12 million or so. I make those numbers up because I have know idea how much he really makes.
                              Mathieu made 7 mil last year on a 1 year deal with Texans. He made 8.1 million in 2017 with the Cardinals in the 2nd year of a 5 year extension. He was released after the 2017 season after refusing to take a pay cut.
                              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • I'd be very disappointed if they made a run at Mathieu. Would like to see Breeland back, maybe look at moving Jackson.

                                Don't really understand why you guys are so hyper-focused on the DB's though... lot of young talent to work with back there.

                                Our problems on defense start up front, as always.
                                wist

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