2019 Free Agency Thread

[wist43]

Never wanted Brown...

My realistic FA wishlist has narrowed down to Barr, Shaquil Barrett, Preston Smith, and Adrian Amos (S, Chi).

Since you guys talked me into bringing in a safety

Would be very happy with Barrett and Amos - and draft another edge guy.

Was down on Burns before, but he really impressed me at the combine.

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Never wanted Brown...

My realistic FA wishlist has narrowed down to Barr, Shaquil Barrett, Preston Smith, and Adrian Amos (S, Chi).

Since you guys talked me into bringing in a safety

Would be very happy with Barrett and Amos - and draft another edge guy.

Was down on Burns before, but he really impressed me at the combine.

so you want us to sign a bunch of guys who have been unable to get sacks in their careers, to fix the problem we have getting to the QB

[wist43]

so you want us to sign a bunch of guys who have been unable to get sacks in their careers, to fix the problem we have getting to the QB

I'm higher on Barrett than Smith... Barrett is a guy who developed over time, and I think he has a good shot a being a consistent double digit sack guy. He'll command a decent contract.

Of those 3, Barrett, Barr, and Smith I'd prefer Barrett.

[Bretsky]

I thought Graham's problems were more rooted in Rodgers having his head up his ass for most of the season.

I didn't watch as much football as I usually do last year, but when I did take the time to scout Graham, he was open a lot - Rodgers just ignored him for wanting to go deep all the time.

Rodgers was nothing short of a train wreck last year.

NO WAY

Graham was pretty worthless the second half of the year. Hands average at best. Could not come up with any of the 50/50 balls he used to get. Couldn't beat anybody in the red zone. He may have been hurt; and he may just be getting slow.

10MIL/Year should buy us a borderline elite TE. That is not Graham. I'm not sure he was that fast in the first half of the season either.

He didn't give GB what we needed. Rodgers lost some faith because he was too unreliable

Maybe he heals up and proves me wrong; I hope so.

But he looks more like a 5MIL/year player than a 10MIL/yr

[wist43]

NO WAY

Graham was pretty worthless the second half of the year. Hands average at best. Could not come up with any of the 50/50 balls he used to get. Couldn't beat anybody in the red zone. He may have been hurt; and he may just be getting slow.

10MIL/Year should buy us a borderline elite TE. That is not Graham. I'm not sure he was that fast in the first half of the season either.

He didn't give GB what we needed. Rodgers lost some faith because he was too unreliable

Maybe he heals up and proves me wrong; I hope so.

But he looks more like a 5MIL/year player than a 10MIL/yr

I didn't say he was a 10m/yr player, and I agree he's lost some mojo; but, I dont think he was as bad as the numbers indicate.

I think Rodgers was such a mess last year that it's tough to evaluate anyone on offense.

[pbmax]

Graham apparently went to the UK to get a stem cell treatment not approved in the US before last season.

[call_me_ishmael]

He got the Kobe treatment and still performed like ass? Yikes. He done.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

That agent is getting around:

Michael Cohen
#Packers are definitely pursuing edge rushers in free agency. The question is whether they’ll get priced out of the market as an organization that operates conservatively. Sources believe top OLBs who won’t get tagged/re-signed should command $10 million to $16 million per year.

Safe to say that the German Shepherd made a fuck up of Polar Bear proportions last season with the Mack ordeal.

[pbmax]

Safe to say that the German Shepherd made a fuck up of Polar Bear proportions last season with the Mack ordeal.

I don't think they can rebuild the D with Mack, loss of picks (it would have taken an extra good pick to beat the Bears offer) and his salary. Team is too top heavy as it is.

Would love to have him, don't think that is the path toward the solution.

[pbmax]

This on the other hand, is more my strategy. Replace whoever was responsible (if it wasn't all Kentrell himself) for that passer rating versus your deep safety.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I don't think they can rebuild the D with Mack, loss of picks (it would have taken an extra good pick to beat the Bears offer) and his salary. Team is too top heavy as it is.

Would love to have him, don't think that is the path toward the solution.

Mack was the solution, methinks. Draft picks are coin flips and the cap can always be cooked. Coulda been Reggie White all over again had Gute ponied up and done the deed.

[Deputy Nutz]

The Packers had so many holes on defense the last 3 to 4 years with lack of production from their draft picks that the last two years their high picks were a damned if you take a defensive tackle, and damned if you take a defensive back because it was like trying to plug the Hoover Dam because there were so many holes. Now more holes have sprouted at safety, and gushers at OLB and ILB. The Packers have more holes than seals right now and unless free agency is used correctly I don't think this defense can be of high quality in 2019.

Add the defensive holes plus the right side of the offensive line and the Packers are flooded. What's crazy is talk about a WR or TE in the draft.

The Packers have to spend money in free agency if they want to get this plumbing situation fixed within the year.

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The Packers had so many holes on defense the last 3 to 4 years with lack of production from their draft picks that the last two years their high picks were a damned if you take a defensive tackle, and damned if you take a defensive back because it was like trying to plug the Hoover Dam because there were so many holes. Now more holes have sprouted at safety, and gushers at OLB and ILB. The Packers have more holes than seals right now and unless free agency is used correctly I don't think this defense can be of high quality in 2019.

Add the defensive holes plus the right side of the offensive line and the Packers are flooded. What's crazy is talk about a WR or TE in the draft.

The Packers have to spend money in free agency if they want to get this plumbing situation fixed within the year.

whats crazy is how many high draft picks we've blown on defense over the years

we sure has hell can't draft defensive guys, need to sign some free agents

[run pMc]

Wilkerson walks unless he's back on a cheapo deal; there's a lot of DL depth in the draft so I wouldn't be surprised (or excited) if they drafted one early. Get ready to pay Kenny Clark.
Sign two of J.Houston/P.Smith/S.Barrett/M.Golden/Clay, draft 2 more edge guys, dump Perry
Bring back Morrison, maybe Burks can unglue himself from the bench. Jake Ryan probably isn't coming back. Is Josh Jones a safety or a LB?
Sign Tre Boston, draft another S.
Teams always need corners but unless a good one falls to them I wouldn't spend a high pick. I'm assuming they keep Tramon and try to sign Breeland. They have plenty of youth; it needs to stay healthy and gel.

Let Bulaga play out his last year but draft two or three OL - one to play RG, the others to push Spriggs as Bulaga's replacement. Find competition for Taylor.
They've already committed to Graham, and with this TE draft class they'll probably take a mid round flyer on one. Maybe they sign a cheapo blocking TE or LaFluer recruits Stoecker away from TEN. Not sure if they'll keep 4 TEs or 3 and a FB. sorry, Vitale is not the guy.
Let Cobb walk, draft a late round flyer on a slot WR who can return punts/kicks, bring Davis and Kumerow to camp to compete but they're probably cuts. Tender Allison.
Draft a speedy RB who can run outside zone plus pass routes and catch. Jones can't stay healthy.

[Carolina_Packer]

Mack was the solution, methinks. Draft picks are coin flips and the cap can always be cooked. Coulda been Reggie White all over again had Gute ponied up and done the deed.

It's a smart move for a team with a QB on a rookie deal to go all in once they realize they are one star player from having a shot. The Packers making such a move would have had to pay Mack once acquired, lose draft picks, which as you said are hard to predict, but still needed for a team that is not K-Mack from the Super Bowl (see offensive struggles last year). Then you have (for the moment) the highest paid offensive and defensive players in the league, some nice players and perhaps not a lot of room left to build a roster. You could do it, but it's a risky move if one of them gets hurt.