M.A.R.G A. ---MARGA....the MAIN TRAIT OUR NEW COACH MUST HAVE.......Who fits that bill ??

[Bretsky]

It's not rocket science as to why GB has had so much success in over the past 20 or so years.
That is what we need to find again. You know the old saying....you throw enough crap against the wall and something will stick. The crap is the playoffs, and we've had two of the best QB's in the history in the NFL and we're only stuck 2 Super Bowls.

But first we need to make the DAM playoffs again....something we're failed at 2 years in a row

And the Packer recipe for making the playoffs.....and why we've been getting to the playoffs over and over when we rarely have elite talent......was by having an elite QB who is good enough to get us there and then hoping to hell the chips fall our way once there. Normally AROD's greatness got us there....somehow....but ThanksTed put average talent around him so we'd normally get bounced.

We can't even talk Super Bowl again til we start getting back to the playoffs again.

SO WHAT IS THE CAPTAIN OBVIOUS TRAIT ANY NEW COACH IN GREEN BAY MUST HAVE ???

ANYBODY WANNA TAKE A SHOT AT WHAT M.A.R.G.A. means ????

[Bretsky]

Make

Aaron

Rodgers

Great

Again

[Bretsky]

And that is the key to GB hiring the right coach.

So I ask you again rats......which candidates have a chance...to...……………

MARGA ????

[Anti-Polar Bear]

J-Mac.

[texaspackerbacker]

First of all, Aaron Rodgers never stopped being great - make that GOAT. Secondly, though, to the extent that the whiners and ingrates and detractors have any case at all i.e. the false premise - IMO - that the problem is something other than mediocre talent around him, what is needed is merely a low-ego coach who will not rock the boat/just let Aaron be Aaron, and forget the foolishness of trying to rein him in or change him.

As for which ones fit that description and which ones don't, I really can't identify any obvious ones either way - although I really hate the idea of Harbaugh.

The question I want to see asked and answered is, who is the best pass-first, throw-it-down-the-field kind of guy? Another pertinent question is who will bring in the best O Line coach, as the shittiness of the O Line just might be more a matter of coaching than personnel.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Or Mike Martz since Rodgers is already a Martzist.

[texaspackerbacker]

Or Mike Martz since Rodgers is already a Martzist.

I wouldn't mind him or at least a disciple of him - the guy is damn near as old as me.

APB, you ain't half bad when you preach Martzism instead of that other similar word you love so much hahahahaha.

Kliff Kingsbury might be the guy.

[Bretsky]

First of all, Aaron Rodgers never stopped being great - make that GOAT. Secondly, though, to the extent that the whiners and ingrates and detractors have any case at all i.e. the false premise - IMO - that the problem is something other than mediocre talent around him, what is needed is merely a low-ego coach who will not rock the boat/just let Aaron be Aaron, and forget the foolishness of trying to rein him in or change him.

As for which ones fit that description and which ones don't, I really can't identify any obvious ones either way - although I really hate the idea of Harbaugh.

The question I want to see asked and answered is, who is the best pass-first, throw-it-down-the-field kind of guy? Another pertinent question is who will bring in the best O Line coach, as the shittiness of the O Line just might be more a matter of coaching than personnel.

Rodgers was not remotedly great this year. He was greatly inconsistent. He still has great talent. But he was not great. He clearly lost the positive communication he once had with MM. He clearly did not feel like the offensive coordinator was being innovative and creative. He clearly did not buy in. We need all of that.

If you WANT the best OL coach, that is an ez one Tex. You want Mike Munchak to be hired.

[pbmax]

Martz hasn't had good results in a long time. And he gets his QBs knocked around.

[woodbuck27]

Martz hasn't had good results in a long time. And he gets his QBs knocked around.

IUs Aaron Rodgers attitude goiung to,impeded getting the very best candidaye pbmax?

This stuff we're reading and calling off plays from MM is disturbing....if the TRUTH.

It appears the NFL is sprinkled with prima Donna STAR Performers and Larger than life EGO's. There are two of thoose who's rights belong to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

I would love to see one of them 'all thje same' wearing Packer Colours.

sweet !

[Pugger]

I don't believe Aaron's attitude is as bad as so many here and elsewhere are suggesting.

[beveaux1]

I don't believe Aaron's attitude is as bad as so many here and elsewhere are suggesting.

I have no reason to believe this either. I do feel that he had a poor season by his standards, but the question is...why? All of us have seen gifs with Rodgers going back to pass, having an open receiver, usually located over the middle in a short zone, he doesn't throw to that receiver but holds the ball and throws inaccurately and deep or throws it away on the sidelines or takes a sack. We immediately point to Rodgers and say that he missed that receiver and wanted to throw deep because of his ego or MMs ego or because he hates MM and wanted him fired. I'll propose an alternate scenario. Perhaps that receiver that was open over the middle was not a receiver that was on Rodgers' list of reads. Maybe that receivers' purpose was to clear a zone of a safety or LB. If there are 6 receivers out on one play, all of them can't be a read because there would not be enough time to scan for each of them. I'd guess that at least two are there to move defenders so there would be lanes to throw to the receivers that are reads on the route.

If Adams were double-teamed and some of the younger, less experienced receivers are reads on the route and they zig when they were supposed to zag, or they just didn't get open, the result of the play would look like it was a Rodgers issue or an MM issue, when, in fact, it was an experience issue. We all know that Adams had one of the greatest seasons by a WR in GB history. The QB had to be getting him the ball with some degree of accuracy and efficiency when he was open. Why did we rarely see that with anybody other than Adams. My eyes could tell me that Graham was much slower than he had been when playing on the Saints, but for long stretches of the season, the rookies disappeared. Why? My mind tells me it was because they weren't open or they weren't in the right place on a bang-bang 2.5 second to get it out pass.

This season looked an awful lot like 2015, when we lost Nelson and our offense just couldn't produce. We blamed Rodgers. I know I did, because I expected that the all world QB made the WRs. I was wrong then. This is a team effort. The WRs make the QB better and I expect the QB makes the WRs better. Look at it like this, if Rodgers is the engine, the WRs are the fuel. If we run some form of the west coast offense, we need better fuel to run our engine. I don't believe the engine is broken. At least I really hope not.

[pbmax]

IUs Aaron Rodgers attitude goiung to,impeded getting the very best candidaye pbmax?

I am not aware of any coach turning down the Packers opportunity, so I think this is an argument in search of an extremely qualified candidate.

Zac Taylor is interviewing and he has not been reported to have turned down the opportunity. If the Packers reached out to him, it hasn't been reported.

Fitzgerald and Riley are each staying in college (Northwestern and Oklahoma), not interviewing for any of the multiple Pro openings.

Who has been so afraid of Rodgers that they won't consider the job?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I wouldn't mind him or at least a disciple of him - the guy is damn near as old as me.

APB, you ain't half bad when you preach Martzism instead of that other similar word you love so much hahahahaha.

Kliff Kingsbury might be the guy.

I dunno much 'bout Kingsbury, other than that he once hooked up with Johnny Football, a Mike Sherman recruit. Adam Gase, whom you dislike wholeheartedly, once crossed paths with Martz, though. I'm with you regarding the notion that the Packers should air it out all day. Fuck the run. Packers have the Great Arm of Butte at QB, and the "ingrates and imbecilic detractors" want him feeding so-so RBs the rock?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Martz hasn't had good results in a long time. And he gets his QBs knocked around.

Rodgers has independently evolved into a Martzist. Likes to cuddle the rock for eons as the big play develops yonder. Likes to kill the run in favor of the pass. A Martz-Rodgers marriage could make the Packers great again.