M.A.R.G A. ---MARGA....the MAIN TRAIT OUR NEW COACH MUST HAVE.......Who fits that bill ??

[Bossman641]

Mike Martz? Guy has been out of the league since 2011. We need someone on the cutting edge of how offense is played today, not stale ideas from a decade ago. Pass

[pbmax]

I dunno much 'bout Kingsbury, other than that he once hooked up with Johnny Football, a Mike Sherman recruit. Adam Gase, whom you dislike wholeheartedly, once crossed paths with Martz, though. I'm with you regarding the notion that the Packers should air it out all day. Fuck the run. Packers have the Great Arm of Butte at QB, and the "ingrates and imbecilic detractors" want him feeding so-so RBs the rock?

When did Gase work with Martz?

[Joemailman]

And that is the key to GB hiring the right coach.

So I ask you again rats......which candidates have a chance...to...……………

MARGA ????

I keep going back to Todd Monken. Bucs led the NFL in passing yards with Jameis Winston and Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB. Now, the Bucs had WAY TOO MANY interceptions, but with Rodgers I don't see that as a problem.

As for the Super Bowl though, it's worth remembering that the Packers won their Super Bowls in years where the defense was rated higher than the offense. So, who the new coach hires as DC matters too. I think Pettine is capable of putting together that kind of defense if you give him some pass rushers and some safeties.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

When did Gase work with Martz?

Detroit.

Dougherty just wrote an column on Gase and that other guy. Looks like the paperboy must’ve been late this morning with your paper.

Kiddos to the folks who still subscribe to actual newspapers. The “paperboy” is paid by subscriptions, not hourly wage. Cancellation talkes away a percentage of their income. Believe me I know. Capitalism forced me to deliver papers for a few months shortly after I was released from the mental institution.

[pbmax]

Detroit.

Dougherty just wrote an column on Gase and that other guy. Looks like the paperboy must’ve been late this morning with your paper.

Kiddos to the folks who still subscribe to actual newspapers. The “paperboy” is paid by subscriptions, not hourly wage. Cancellation talkes away a percentage of their income. Believe me I know. Capitalism forced me to deliver papers for a few months shortly after I was released from the mental institution.

OK, I am off the Gase bandwagon. Not because of Martz or Tank but these two items:

His own offense, which he used in Chicago as coordinator and Miami as head coach, has Martz tendencies but with a mix of everything he has learned.

“He’s very bright and very versatile and doesn’t mind changing as long as he gets to call the plays,” the former member of the Broncos’ staff said.

Not sure we need ANY Martz tendencies. But more troubling is the idea he has to call the plays as a young HC. Points to lack of focus on rest of team. This was one of McCarthy's few weaknesses.

Also:

“From what I understand, offensive coordinator, yeah, you want him in a heartbeat,” said an assistant coach in the league who is friends with several members of Gase’s Miami staff. “Head coach? Very hands off. His personality is very reserved.”

Packers might be one of few teams this will work with. But you really don't need a shrinking violet as HC.

I am now on Team LeFleur.

[Bretsky]

OK, I am off the Gase bandwagon. Not because of Martz or Tank but these two items:



Not sure we need ANY Martz tendencies. But more troubling is the idea he has to call the plays as a young HC. Points to lack of focus on rest of team. This was one of McCarthy's few weaknesses.

Also:



Packers might be one of few teams this will work with. But you really don't need a shrinking violet as HC.

I am now on Team LeFleur.

WHY are you on Team LeFleur ? Not that I'm saying he's a bad choice. He'd be one of my top 5.

But my impression is you are looking for reasons to eliminate candidates as opposed to finding the best one.

Perhaps that comes from my perceived stubbornness for you eliminating HG2 so early when he's pretty much considered the top assistant and most qualified candidate in the NFL to coach any team on paper and by most I listen to on the NFL Network and interviews

[gbgary]

as i mention in another thread Rodgers isn't 28 anymore. a fact that has escaped both parties. the next coach has to have a stronger personality than Rodgers, the organization has to have his back, they need to change the O philosophy (away from big play over first down), and Rodgers has to want to change. i don't think those things are likely so i don't think matters who the coach is.

[pbmax]

WHY are you on Team LeFleur ? Not that I'm saying he's a bad choice. He'd be one of my top 5.

But my impression is you are looking for reasons to eliminate candidates as opposed to finding the best one.

Perhaps that comes from my perceived stubbornness for you eliminating HG2 so early when he's pretty much considered the top assistant and most qualified candidate in the NFL to coach any team on paper and by most I listen to on the NFL Network and interviews

First, I don’t know what I am talking about

Second, easier to find disqualifications than qualifications.

Third, LaFleur just doesn’t have any red flags. Doesn’t mean he is ready to be HC or emotionally equipped. Gase had a bad go except for one year at Miami. Can also make case he is the product of Manning as his own OC.

Fourth, like Zimmer or Parcells or Belichick or Coughlin, I like the notion of exec HC. Not play caller or D coordinator. Not a deal breaker but I think it helps game management.

This was in article from another coaching source and not a quote by Gase, so take it with a grain of salt. Perhaps LaFleur will want to call plays too.

McDaniels just doesn’t strike me as the guy who will break free of Belichick assistant mold. His stint in Denver (not wholly unqualifying) was problematic including the ludicrous idea of drafting Tebow as his starter. Being delusional and an egotistical and unproven outside of BB, I see too much downside that cancels the upside of possible budding genius.

Boning over the Colts is just an example of not being true to his word. Points to short termer-ism.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't think I ever said I hated the idea of Gase, and the more I read, the better I like him - that little bit of Martz i.e. pass pass pass. I see Kliff Kingsbury is getting some consideration from the Jets and maybe a couple of others. His "air raid" offense is what I want to see.

Lafleur has been more about balance with the Titans. I'm not gonna say anything against him, though, as likely, he or anybody else the Packers select will subordinate their own ego to doing what works - which is pass first and pass often when you have the GOAT QB.

The whole selection process is (or should be) less about who and more about what kind of offense the guy prefers.

[call_me_ishmael]

as i mention in another thread Rodgers isn't 28 anymore. a fact that has escaped both parties. the next coach has to have a stronger personality than Rodgers, the organization has to have his back, they need to change the O philosophy (away from big play over first down), and Rodgers has to want to change. i don't think those things are likely so i don't think matters who the coach is.

Great post. This is basically my opinion put much more succinctly than I could.

[texaspackerbacker]

42 is the new 28 - just ask Tom Brady. Big Plays = Good, Short Quick Passes = Not So Much

[Freak Out]

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