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  • Originally posted by Patler View Post
    There was an article toward the end of the season quoting the typical unidentified "insiders" as saying that Raih was the weak link on the coaching staff, that he didn't have a good grasp of all the details of the offense himself, let alone the ability to bring the rookies up to speed quickly. Odd, since he was in GB for a number of seasons in other positions before taking over the WRs.
    The one thing I don't understand (even the Patriots operate this way) is the eagerness to promote quality control guys to position coaches.

    Remember Jimmy Robinson? Spent a career learning how to teach WR position to players. How do Luke Getsy and Raih compete with that?

    Does the change in offense and reduced time for drills in practice simply mean that players no longer work on that kind of detail?

    Patriots always promote their QC guys, so this is not just a McCarthy thing.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • Going to be interesting to see what happens with Whitt out. He specialized in teaching man coverage to CBs. Could be interesting.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • Apologies if a repeat, I did not see it posted here.

        Green Bay Packers @packers
        #Packers retain Mike Pettine as defensive coordinator

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        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          Going to be interesting to see what happens with Whitt out. He specialized in teaching man coverage to CBs. Could be interesting.
          Time to get the predator
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Jim Owczarski @JimOwczarski

            Once a head coaching candidate for the #Packers, can confirm former #Buccaneers OC Todd Monken will now get his shot to interview with Matt LaFleur for that position in Green Bay.


            Sweet.
            But will he want the job if he isn't calling the plays?

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            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              Mildly surprised that Whitt is out. I wonder the level of influence that Pettine has now in choosing the defensive staff. Was this a Pettine decision or a LaFleur decision?
              Maybe a mutual decision so Whitt can pursue a DC job somewhere?

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              • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                But will he want the job if he isn't calling the plays?
                Maybe we overthink this play calling stuff. By Sunday, with all their charts and game-planning, it seems these guys have every down and distance and game-situation dissected to the point that there's really only a few actual plays they might call for the particular situation, especially if they don't call stuff they haven't practiced sufficiently. So maybe Flour would call play #1 on the chart and Monkey would call #2. They can argue for 10 seconds over the headsets and then send it in to Rodgers who will just check out of whatever they called anyway to THROWING DA BOMB!!!
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • ^ I agree. That is why i am hoping either Hackett or Monken convince him (probably unlikely) to give this up and manage the team. A HC has more important game management decisions than play calling ones.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    ^ I agree. That is why i am hoping either Hackett or Monken convince him (probably unlikely) to give this up and manage the team. A HC has more important game management decisions than play calling ones.
                    I WANT THE MONKEY !!!!!!!! Bring him to GB; it will make what I consider...a....well....I can live with that ok hire a bit bettter
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • Packers might lose Campen to the Browns, which also indicates he might have been allowed to interview with the Browns so the parting would be voluntary.

                      I put the odds of the new coach being better than McCarthy at 30%. One of the reasons is that the two guys who just left were very successful and you need to find good people to fill those spots in a hurry. I suspected Campen might be on his way out because while McCarthy started out ZBS and still runs some zone (inside and outside), the Shanahan offense is predicated (from run to pass) on making run plays look like passes and vice versa. So it'll be whatever the updated version of ZBS is and that might necessitate a new O line coach.

                      Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde
                      #Packers May lose longtime offensive line coach James Campen to #Browns, per @RobDemovsky. As Rob points out, Packers would’ve had to give Campen permission to interview in Cleveland, lending credence to the idea that they want a fresh start from longtime McCarthy lieutenants.


                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                        Gotta imagine Shanny would let the dude's brother leave to coach with his bro.
                        No brah, SF has now denied permission for Mike to be with his bro.

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                        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Packers might lose Campen to the Browns, which also indicates he might have been allowed to interview with the Browns so the parting would be voluntary.

                          I put the odds of the new coach being better than McCarthy at 30%. One of the reasons is that the two guys who just left were very successful and you need to find good people to fill those spots in a hurry. I suspected Campen might be on his way out because while McCarthy started out ZBS and still runs some zone (inside and outside), the Shanahan offense is predicated (from run to pass) on making run plays look like passes and vice versa. So it'll be whatever the updated version of ZBS is and that might necessitate a new O line coach.

                          Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde
                          #Packers May lose longtime offensive line coach James Campen to #Browns, per @RobDemovsky. As Rob points out, Packers would’ve had to give Campen permission to interview in Cleveland, lending credence to the idea that they want a fresh start from longtime McCarthy lieutenants.


                          I have also heard Vikings are extremely interested in Campen.

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                          • Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                            When is Italian not White. Racist pos’s here. Lol
                            I'm not an expert on the subject, but I hear you can ask Dennis Hopper about it.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                              Time to get the predator
                              Still one of my all time faves. Not sure he can teach as I haven't really followed his coaching career. I am pretty sure he could still lock down any receiver in the NFC North though.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Packers might lose Campen to the Browns, which also indicates he might have been allowed to interview with the Browns so the parting would be voluntary.

                                I put the odds of the new coach being better than McCarthy at 30%. One of the reasons is that the two guys who just left were very successful and you need to find good people to fill those spots in a hurry. I suspected Campen might be on his way out because while McCarthy started out ZBS and still runs some zone (inside and outside), the Shanahan offense is predicated (from run to pass) on making run plays look like passes and vice versa. So it'll be whatever the updated version of ZBS is and that might necessitate a new O line coach.

                                Is Alex Gibbs still alive?
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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