Packers hiring LaFleur.

[pbmax]

My rebuttal: It is a passing league. Maybe, if you have a solid line, and chance upon excellent running backs and/or your line is better at run blocking, and/or you have a marginal or awful QB, you make it a significant element of your offense. Otherwise, you use it as a changeup weapon to keep the defense on it's toes, run the clock mostly late, and not much else.

This can be true. There is a market opportunity to collect great run pieces at a discount.

Problem is you will need a passing game and a talented run team will be hard pressed to play quickly or catchup.

It’s wasnt a problem in the 60s (pre merger NFL) or the 70s but now you need to score a LOT more. A good team will load up versus your run game and dare you to pass.

I think last years Jags took the run offense concept as far as it can go.

You need a QB which requires serious resources which means less of something else.

[pbmax]

I agree with Bobble to this extent. I think the run game should be a constraint play.

If the defense plays it light or empties the box, you run.

If your O line blocks well and you average over 5 per carry, the run some more. You just need to not be empty backfield to make play action work.

But it’s a make the defense pay for adjusting strategy mostly. Until the end of game clock eating begins.

[texaspackerbacker]

Even I would agree with that, but the fact is, that description just ain't the Packers. And of course, what the D is set up to stop has a lot to do with what you do. Bottom line, though, is don't run to set up the pass; Pass to set up an occasional run.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

On a related note, Ron Zook is interviewing for an assistant special teams coaching position for the Appleton Applejacks PeeWee team.

Yo, I’m head coach of that team. Fortunately, the African-American population in cold, dark and dull Appleton has increased to the point that now all of my corners are black. My QBs are always pale-skinned. Ditto, my OL. My WRs and LBers are mixed.

Yes, I assign kids according to their skin pigments. Parents like Partial don’t like my methods, but know what I tell them?

Blame the fucked up system, a system whose first 3 letters rhymes with “Kap.” We are all incarcerated in a system in which greed, inequality, prejudice and corruption are infectious norms. I’m merely preparing the kids for the abominations they will face upon entering the cold, dark and dull work force in adulthood. [/satire]

Btw, I’m curious about what my pals Nutz and Harlan, as well as Madtown, think of LaFluer. Anyone knows? They haven’t posted their opinions yet.

[Fosco33]

Think we’ll get Rizzi as ST coordinator. He is HC material so it’ll take a better title... heard good things about him. It’d be nice not to lose multiple games a year to special teams.

[Fritz]

I agree with Bobble to this extent. I think the run game should be a constraint play.

If the defense plays it light or empties the box, you run.

If your O line blocks well and you average over 5 per carry, the run some more. You just need to not be empty backfield to make play action work.

But it’s a make the defense pay for adjusting strategy mostly. Until the end of game clock eating begins.

Yet on the drive that put NE in front if KC with 3:50 or so left in the game, NE ran and ran and ran some more. Interesting.

[pbmax]

Think we’ll get Rizzi as ST coordinator. He is HC material so it’ll take a better title... heard good things about him. It’d be nice not to lose multiple games a year to special teams.

He left without a deal. Doesn't have to mean something (Haslett left town too) but its not done yet.

[pbmax]

Yet on the drive that put NE in front if KC with 3:50 or so left in the game, NE ran and ran and ran some more. Interesting.

NE was heavy with Gronk in line to block. KC had the pass rushers in. Had been playing that game all evening. Matchups.

[pbmax]

Jim Owczarski @JimOwczarski
As this continues to play out, perhaps the #Packers will re-examine #Bengals ST asst. Brayden Coombs. By my count still several ST coordinator openings out there.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
#Packers are starting to explore other options for special teams coach. They interviewed #Dolphins ST coach Darren Rizzi last week, but they must not have bowled him over because there has been no hire. His only visit so far has been GB and they let him leave without a deal.

[mraynrand]

I'd like the Packers to hire a special teams penalty co-ordinator. He could spend time during the week co-ordinating how not to hold and block from behind. Maybe they could hire me (Or Red). My abbreviated co-ordinator playbook:

1) STOP FUCKING BLOCKING FROM BEHIND
2) STOP FUCKING GRABBING

[Fritz]

NE was heavy with Gronk in line to block. KC had the pass rushers in. Had been playing that game all evening. Matchups.

But whoever called those run plays, over and over down the stretch, had the cojones to take the ball out of Brady's hands.

[mraynrand]

But whoever called those run plays, over and over down the stretch, had the cojones to take the ball out of Brady's hands.

It was Brady, or at least Brady was on board. It was all about alignment and personnel. Almost every time when KC went heavy to stop the run, NE passed and vice versa.

[pbmax]

But whoever called those run plays, over and over down the stretch, had the cojones to take the ball out of Brady's hands.

Oh, I think they were in bleed clock mode. And they probably had pass/run calls and Brady was calling run (or not calling it off) based on personnel or pre-snap reads.

[pbmax]

It was Brady, or at least Brady was on board. It was all about alignment and personnel. Almost every time when KC went heavy to stop the run, NE passed and vice versa.

Everything you need to know about the NFL was contained in the 2001 Packers-Ravens game.

[Joemailman]

I'm guessing this will not go over well here.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...n-rizzi-coach/

Green Bay Packers president Mark Murphy must not be willing to pay top dollar to fix his team’s disastrous special teams.

According to a report from Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Packers won’t be hiring top available special teams coach Darren Rizzi, with cost believed to be the deal breaker in negotiations.


Packers coach Matt LaFleur met with Rizzi in Green Bay last Tuesday but the two sides weren’t able to reach a deal.

An associate head coach in Miami under Adam Gase and one of the NFL’s best special teams coordinators of the last decade, Rizzi could have provided much-needed experience on the coaching staff for LaFleur and an immediate fix for the Packers’ flat-lined special teams group.

Instead, the Packers will have to look elsewhere.

Rizzi, who interviewed for the Dolphins’ head-coaching job, likely wanted to be paid as a top assistant to take the job under LaFleur in Green Bay. The Packers, who are paying the first year of LaFleur’s new deal and the final year of Mike McCarthy’s contract, reportedly balked at Rizzi’s demands.

It doesn’t sound as if the fit between LaFleur and Rizzi was a problem. Per Silverstein, the two had a “great visit” in Green Bay last week.