Packers hiring LaFleur.

[Joemailman]

Marques Eversoll @MarquesEversoll
Source: #Jaguars assistant special teams coordinator Mike Mallory spotted at the airport in Green Bay after visiting with the #Packers today.


Fritz knows its best not to win the offseason. Well, the Packers have been doing bang up job on that front.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...ial-teams-job/

Mallory has been coordinating special teams in the NFL since 2008. He served five years (2008-12) as the assistant special teams coordinator for the New Orleans Saints before leaving to be the coordinator for the Jaguars in 2013. He held that role for three seasons before being demoted to assistant special teams coordinator in 2017 under Joe DeCamillis.

The Jaguars ranked fourth in special teams DVOA in 2018, according to Football Outsiders.

Don't like the recent career trajectory. Would like to know more details.

[Bretsky]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...ial-teams-job/



Don't like the recent career trajectory. Would like to know more details.

Am I the only one raising my eye brows at some of these hires ?

[mraynrand]

He served five years (2008-12) as the assistant special teams coordinator for the New Orleans Saints before leaving to be the coordinator for the Jaguars in 2013.

His squad gave up a TD to Cobb in his first game as a pro.

[Joemailman]

Am I the only one raising my eye brows at some of these hires ?

The TE coach is the only hire I'm questioning at this point. (Mallory hasn't been hired). The fact that they're hiring an OL coach to coach TE's might suggest that blocking from TE's will be a priority. Rams did not throw a lot to TE's in 2017 when LaFleur was OC. They didn't this year either.

[pbmax]

Even for Green Bay in January, that's a slow news day.

That guy is a source for GB news folks. I assume he works at the airport?

[pbmax]

The TE coach is the only hire I'm questioning at this point. (Mallory hasn't been hired). The fact that they're hiring an OL coach to coach TE's might suggest that blocking from TE's will be a priority. Rams did not throw a lot to TE's in 2017 when LaFleur was OC. They didn't this year either.

Great. From one coach who wanted a do everything TE to play FB to a coach who thinks its an extra Tackle.

[Patler]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...ial-teams-job/



Don't like the recent career trajectory. Would like to know more details.

New head coach brought in his own guy as coordinator, and kept Mallory as assistant.

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein strikes back at Packer Rats

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
#Packers finished 32nd in Rick Gosselin’s special teams rankings. Now you know why it was necessary for them to land former #Dolphins ST coordinator Darren Rizzi, whose units ranked 4th. The rest of the field isn’t good. Here’s Rick’s rankings:

Gosselin Ranking: https://t.co/PipCgtuSba

[Fritz]

Getsy to a nunnery!

That was a good one.

As for Mike Mallory, I actually knew him, albeit peripherally, back in the day at Michigan. He was one of the less assholish players on the team. In fact, he was pretty nice. Which means he'd be a terrible special teams coach.

[run pMc]

Am I the only one raising my eye brows at some of these hires ?

Nope.

[run pMc]

Great. From one coach who wanted a do everything TE to play FB to a coach who thinks its an extra Tackle.

I am hopeful they will adjust their scheme to fit the players. I think that probably means we won't have a Delanie Walker-type at TE, even if they hold onto Jimmy Graham. If using more blocking TE's helps the run game and protects Rodgers from getting hit I'm ok with it. I don't know about hiring a guy who was basically a high school gym teacher two years ago though.

[Fritz]

I think that's what the good coaches do - adjust the schemes to the strengths of the players he has.

[denverYooper]

Tonyan will be the next George Kittle

[mraynrand]

Tonyan will be the next George Kittle

I believe you

[pbmax]

I am hopeful they will adjust their scheme to fit the players. I think that probably means we won't have a Delanie Walker-type at TE, even if they hold onto Jimmy Graham. If using more blocking TE's helps the run game and protects Rodgers from getting hit I'm ok with it. I don't know about hiring a guy who was basically a high school gym teacher two years ago though.

I am mostly just down on the visible utility of these moves. No one knew who the hell Andy Reid was either and Holmgren had to convince him to take the TE coach position to learn the passing game in order to advance. He wanted to be the O line coach.

Shanahan Senior's offense found a way to use Shannon Sharpe, who wasn't exactly Ed West when it came to skill set. So this can still work. I am just down on the lack of overall excitement.

Andy Reid at time of hiring in GB
age: 34 (I did not adjust for months)
years coaching high school: 0
years coaching college: 9 years O line coach, 1 year grad assistant
years coaching pro: 0
first pro coaching job: offensive assistant 3 years, then became asst O line coach and TE coach in his fourth year

Justin Outten
age: 34 (extrapolated from being at Syracuse as player in 2002)
years coaching in high school: 9 years as Asst HC, offensive coordinator and O line coach
years coaching in college: 1 year Grad Assistant
years coaching pro: 3 (1 year offensive assistant, 2 years assistant O line coach)

Basically you are trading 9 years of college for 9 years of high school and the high school job had more authority. Outten also is 3 years of pro work ahead of Andy.

One thing I did not realize is that Outten was a quality control/offensive assistant during one year of Shanahan/LaFleur in Atlanta (2016). So theoretically he knows the offense, not just O line stuff.