Packers hiring LaFleur.

[Joemailman]

Shawn Mennenga favorite was Packers ST job?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-with-packers/

Shawn Mennenga has emerged as the favorite to replace Ron Zook as the Packers’ special teams coach, Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports.

Mennenga currently serves as the special teams coach at Vanderbilt.

He was the assistant special teams coach for the Browns for seven seasons, including in 2014-15 when Mike Pettine was the head coach in Cleveland. Pettine now works as the defensive coordinator in Green Bay.

Mennenga has coached since 1994, working his way through the college ranks before landing with the Browns. He was South Dakota State’s linebackers coach in 2009-10.

Perhaps Pettine having some influence on hiring of coaches.

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Shawn Mennenga favorite was Packers ST job?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-with-packers/



Perhaps Pettine having some influence on hiring of coaches.

Pettine also got one of his ex guys on defense, didn't he?

[Joemailman]

Pettine also got one of his ex guys on defense, didn't he?

Yes. OLB coach Mike Smith.

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Yes. OLB coach Mike Smith.

I just sense a steep learning curve with this staff. I am glad LaFleur is working closely with Pettine, but I get the sense he was a half step from ready for this.

The good side is that McCarthy and Sherman basically followed the same path. If you don't hire a retread, you don't get all the retread's cronies.

[Joemailman]

I just sense a steep learning curve with this staff. I am glad LaFleur is working closely with Pettine, but I get the sense he was a half step from ready for this.

The good side is that McCarthy and Sherman basically followed the same path. If you don't hire a retread, you don't get all the retread's cronies.

I'd be more concerned if the OC and DC were first time coordinators.

There are some similarities between this and MM's first year. New HC a bit of a surprise pick who was an OC with mediocre results the year before. Both coaches retaining the DC from year before. Difference is I think Hackett is more ready than Jagodzinski was to be Packers OC. Actually, my recollection is that Jags was a glorified OL coach in 2006 as Packers were making switch to zone blocking. MM was really the guy installing the new offense. Also, that 2006 team had 2, sometimes 3 rookies starting on the OL, and a rookie WR starting. So I think Rodgers has a better chance to have a bounce back year in 2019 than Favre did in 2006.

Still, there could be some growing pains. Both Sherman and McCarthy had 3-5 records in the 1st half of their 1st season before rebounding to 9-7 and 8-8 respectively. Can't rule that kind of scenario out in 2019.

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I'd be more concerned if the OC and DC were first time coordinators.

There are some similarities between this and MM's first year. New HC a bit of a surprise pick who was an OC with mediocre results the year before. Both coaches retaining the DC from year before. Difference is I think Hackett is more ready than Jagodzinski was to be Packers OC. Actually, my recollection is that Jags was a glorified OL coach in 2006 as Packers were making switch to zone blocking. MM was really the guy installing the new offense. Also, that 2006 team had 2, sometimes 3 rookies starting on the OL, and a rookie WR starting. So I think Rodgers has a better chance to have a bounce back year in 2019 than Favre did in 2006.

Still, there could be some growing pains. Both Sherman and McCarthy had 3-5 records in the 1st half of their 1st season before rebounding to 9-7 and 8-8 respectively. Can't rule that kind of scenario out in 2019.

Agree that Hackett is a step ahead of Jags, who is apparently no longer at Georgia State even. And I like Pettine more than Sanders. Its just that without getting your first choices, its going to take some time to gel, especially on offense.

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Shawn Mennenga favorite was Packers ST job?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-with-packers/



Perhaps Pettine having some influence on hiring of coaches.

Silverstein with a couple of notes:

1. Mennenga coached in Cleveland under Chris Tabor (with Bears now) who was trained by Dave Toub.
2. Mennenga also worked with Shanny Jr. when he was the OC for Cleveland for Pettine.

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/01/29/packers-eyeing-vanderbilt-special-teams-coach-shawn-mennenga/2711911002/

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Same Silverstein story on Darren Rizzi:

The Packers tried to hire highly respected Miami Dolphins special teams coach Darren Rizzi, but even though they were able to get him to make a visit they didn’t blow him away with their offer. Rizzi would have been working with a coach he didn’t know and moving his family to a cold-weather city.

Rizzi and LaFleur hit it off, the source said, but Rizzi left town without the offer he thought was forthcoming. Although the Packers met his number several days later, the source said, he decided to pull himself out of the running. He is expected to land with another NFL team.

Seems like someone screwed this one up.

[denverYooper]

All good. Speed and quickness would be better.

Does deceptive speed count?

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Does deceptive speed count?

It does if you are the son of a coach. But now I wonder if concussions are contagious?

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Alvis Whitted is now the WR coach.

Packers: https://t.co/PAPsC4J4o0

[Bretsky]

Same Silverstein story on Darren Rizzi:

Rizzi and LaFleur hit it off, the source said, but Rizzi left town without the offer he thought was forthcoming. Although the Packers met his number several days later, the source said, he decided to pull himself out of the running. He is expected to land with another NFL team.

Seems like someone screwed this one up.

SERIOUS F'CK UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who holds accountabioity……………….Jerry Jones.....aka MARCIA MARCIA MARCIA

[Bretsky]

Alvis Whitted is now the WR coach.

Packers: https://t.co/PAPsC4J4o0

Well at least he coached WR's in college

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Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
With the #Packers officially announcing the hiring of WRs coach Alvis Whitted, coach Mike LaFleur's offensive staff is pretty set. A few position assts are still to be added:

OFFENSE

OC - Nathaniel Hackett
QB - Luke Getsy,
RB - Ben Sirmans
OL - Adam Stenavich
TEs - Justin Outten

DEFENSE

Coordinator – Mike Pettine
Def. line – Jerry Montgomery
Inside LBs – Kirk Olivadotti
Outside LBs – Mike Smith
Defensive backs – Jason Simmons

Special teams
Coordinator – Shawn Mennenga*

[call_me_ishmael]

I will happily eat my crow if I'm wrong but I feel like they royally screwed this whole coaching search up. LaFleur is fine but the assistants seem a little bit second rate to me, at least based on their bios. Maybe that's a good thing. I do prefer young coaches in general as they're more relatable.

That said, I'm not too concerned because I think more than anything this team just needed a fresh start and some new juice. They'll get some new players this off-season and they of course have the fresh start with the new coaching staff. I suspect they'll be back in the thick of things next year since they have a lot of talent offensively - allegedly anyway.