Bobbles Offseason Position group breakdown: Quarterbacks

[texaspackerbacker]

I like a lot of what you say a lot of the time, run pMc, but the thing I don't like about the "quick rhythm passing game" that so many in here seem to want is that it seems like it goes against the grain of the best thing about Aaron Rodgers - not throwing interceptions. I'm confident, though, that whatever is called, Rodgers is gonna do what Rodgers is gonna do - extend plays and make plays with both his arm and his legs.

[pbmax]

If AR was ignoring open guys underneath that's on him. If receivers are not getting open or coming back to AR when the play goes to hell that's on them and the WR coach. I suspect all of them were to blame for our offensive issues last year along with Stubby.

I think the offense devolved over time to shorter routes. Personnel played a role here. Recall the difficulty the offense had when Jordy was injured. Worked OK for a while, but then the wheels started to come off. Only Cook and the extended offense saved them in 2016.

Without Cook and a hampered Nelson, there wasn't much left to get deep. Those offensive slowdowns in 2014 and 2015 became the offense.

To compensate, Rodgers accelerates changing the plays. Like Favre, he would ignore the basic play or half the field on initial reads looking for something bigger he remembered working against that defense previously.

You add that to WR injuries, limitations, lack of a TE and youth, you get a hodge podge of an offense. And yes, some guys were overlooked short even when open.

[run pMc]

I like a lot of what you say a lot of the time, run pMc, but the thing I don't like about the "quick rhythm passing game" that so many in here seem to want is that it seems like it goes against the grain of the best thing about Aaron Rodgers - not throwing interceptions. I'm confident, though, that whatever is called, Rodgers is gonna do what Rodgers is gonna do - extend plays and make plays with both his arm and his legs.

Agree that Rodgers is gonna improvise. Going back and watching what happened with the Rams vs. the Bears during regular season and Patriots in the SB, Goff looked flustered. I think Rodgers is smarter and more mobile, and would find ways to improvise that Goff couldn't when defenses take away the quick game or first reads.

One thing that we rarely saw last year (maybe teams caught up to it) was Rodgers getting defensive "12 men on the field" or "offside" free-plays. They will still need to take deep shots -- and with a room of speedy giant WRs they should. I loathed seeing them take (and miss) deep shots on 3rd and 3 under M3, but if it's there you take it.

[mraynrand]

Agree that Rodgers is gonna improvise. Going back and watching what happened with the Rams vs. the Bears during regular season and Patriots in the SB, Goff looked flustered. I think Rodgers is smarter and more mobile, and would find ways to improvise that Goff couldn't when defenses take away the quick game or first reads.

Those down on Stubby may not enjoy the fact that he's one of the coaches 'Cheat actually fears. Circumstances have typically been bad for the Packers when they faced 'Cheat while Stubby was coach, but there's no doubt but that Stubby could counter 'Cheat's defensive schemes. The Giants robbed us of two Superbowls that I think would have both been epic scoring fests. OH well. Anyway, hopefully L.A.Flour can fully utilize Rodgers and become greater than similarly designed offenses.