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    James Campen Exit Interview

    Campen speaks on ESPN Radio with Wilde and Tauscher: A not so live blog

    How did leaving GB feel? Tough leaving so many relationships in building.

    Called Cleveland a great organization, might be suffering emotional distress.

    Kind words about welcoming nature of Packers org early in tenure.

    What was it like going from Sherman to McCarthy? Similar to situation now. Waiting at desks in building. Recommended for interview (not clear by who but Philbin brought him to Sherman's staff) but nothing guaranteed. Spent hours with McCarthy then waited two days to get offer. Calls McCarthy a wonderful person and offered great opportunities.

    Fell in love with Freddie Kitchens, no second thoughts about signing immediately with him.

    How did he react to M3 getting let go? Happened quick. But we had a game to coach and had to put emotions aside. Weird having game plan room for first time in 13 years. But players need you to get them a plan and detail.

    Very kind words for Wilde for doing research ahead of time and not trying to get garbage quotes.

    Would not have stayed (at current position and salary) in GB given the offer he had from Cleveland, but was not asked to stay.

    Kinds words about LaFleur's approach and communication with retained staff. Spent four hours with him last Friday. He does say he fought like hell to be here but ultimately was given permission to interview elsewhere.

    Joe Thomas said if he could get the Chad Clifton treatment, he might come out of retirement. Apparently only practices on Saturday walkthroughs.

    Bryan Bulaga said that Campen promised to reveal his favorite/best unit of his time in GB if he ever left. Campen agrees that this is true, but he didn't say when after his departure he would make his announcement. He says he'll be ready to make the call in 15 years.

    Seems a little emotional when asked what he will miss most (answer: people). Seems like a sweet and funny guy. I think everyone on this call is genuinely sad he is leaving. Kinda moving.

    http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=25778881
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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  • #2
    Article by Wilde about how much some of his players here appreciate him. https://madison.com/wsj/sports/footb...e3aa8fad2.html

    Always liked watching his PC's, although I always had the impression he'd have rather been sitting in a hunting or fishing lodge with a beer in his hand. That kind of guy.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #3
      from the madison.com article:

      Since 2010, the Packers have had six linemen selected to the Pro Bowl — making Campen the only offensive line coach over that time to send that many linemen to the league’s annual all-star game.

      Plus, from guards Josh Sitton (fourth round, 2008) and T.J. Lang (fourth round, 2009) to franchise left tackle David Bakhtiari (fourth round, 2013) and Linsley (fifth round, 2014), the Packers consistently developed mid-round picks into top-flight starters. The Packers also often entrusted Campen to take players who primarily played one position in college and convert them to starters elsewhere in the pros.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #4
        I’d take Joe Thomas in a heartbeat!
        The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
        Vince Lombardi

        "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          I think everyone on this call is genuinely sad he is leaving. Kinda moving.

          http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=25778881
          Not everyone here is sad he is going.

          It's finally time to change my 'Fire James Campen' signature.
          2025 Ratpickers champion.

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          • #6
            Why would anyone dislike Campen? The Packers line has been tremendous - at or near the top of the league performance wise - for many years despite rarely investing top draft picks. He is obviously a very good coach paired with a unique ability to find the right players later in the draft.

            Just think about this for a second:

            1. When healthy, Bulaga is generally considered the best or one of the top 5 RTs in the league. When healthy is the key part.

            2. 4th rounder Bakhtiari is considered a premier, top 1-3 LT in the league.

            3. 4th rounder TJ Lang developed into a top 2-3 RG in the league.

            4. 4th rounder Josh Sitton developed into the top LG in the league.

            5. 5th rounder Corey Linsley developed into a top 10 center in the league.

            That 2014 line was a historically good line. My goodness.

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            • #7
              ^ Prior to Sitton, they had trouble replacing both Guards and the center. Colledge and Spitz were functional but not pro bowlers and it looked like the line was on borrowed time until Sitton came along.

              Spitz got hurt on a switch to center and was never the same. Remember when we were all rooting for Grey Rueggamer and EDS to make quality starts?
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #8
                So we believe that coaching matters, not just the inherent talents of the players? I thought Rodgers became great via strictly autonomous means. Why is that not true for linemen as well?
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #9
                  ^ Its almost as if a multi variable equation, requires multiple valid inputs to produce the results you want.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                    I’d take Joe Thomas in a heartbeat!
                    I was thinking the same thing. If he came out of retirement to play for the Packers, would we need to make a deal with the Browns to get his rights, or just sign him?
                    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                      Why would anyone dislike Campen? The Packers line has been tremendous - at or near the top of the league performance wise - for many years despite rarely investing top draft picks. He is obviously a very good coach paired with a unique ability to find the right players later in the draft.
                      The Packers line has been vastly overrated. For Campen's first 5-6 years they would start the season like complete dog shit - zero holes in the run game and piss poor pass blocking. Only the otherworldly play of first Favre then Rodgers kept the teams afloat until the line could get their collective heads out of their asses. They would finish strong and the Packers would have a good record and people would forget how bad the line was at the start of the year. Whatever metrics show the line has been great just don't measure up with what can actually be seen. So in my book, good riddance. Get ready to run for your life Mayfield.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                        The Packers line has been vastly overrated. For Campen's first 5-6 years they would start the season like complete dog shit - zero holes in the run game and piss poor pass blocking. Only the otherworldly play of first Favre then Rodgers kept the teams afloat until the line could get their collective heads out of their asses. They would finish strong and the Packers would have a good record and people would forget how bad the line was at the start of the year. Whatever metrics show the line has been great just don't measure up with what can actually be seen. So in my book, good riddance. Get ready to run for your life Mayfield.
                        + 1 ....... Hell Yeah!
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                        • #13
                          Campen has been with the team for 15+ years. HIs first 5-6 years coincided with two good, experienced tackles who started to get hurt and pretty middling players in the center of the line. I would take exception to the idea that the O line was crap in 09 and 10 though. A crap O line did not stop the Steelers in the SB.

                          As the talent got better, talent that Campen helped develop. the line played better.

                          So we can say until 2018, the unit he coached for those 9-10 years was a great pass blocking unit and a fair to middling run blocking unit.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            I would take exception to the idea that the O line was crap in 09 and 10 though.
                            Yep, that was a solid O-line. They struggled in Detroit, but so did Vince's squad.
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #15
                              So there you have the two points of view ....... I'll stick with what MadScientist had to say.
                              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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