Draft 2019 : The Reasoning BEHIND Your Preferences

[texaspackerbacker]

The closer we get to the draft, the more people seem to focus on need instead of talent.

Let's just let Gutekunst draft the absolutely most talented and dedicated football players he can, and if we have seven wide receivers but only three safeties on the roster at the end of the draft, that will sort itself out later.

It's not so much focusing on need as it is avoiding positions where there is no need. You could easily draft the BPA but limit it to 6 or 8 positions where we aren't loaded already.

[wist43]

I've warmed up to Harry, and have always liked Brown. The other Wideout I like in that 30-44 range is Campbell.

Just depends on how the draft falls.

I like Jaylon Ferguson there, Adderley, the Florida Safety, Risner, Lindstrom.

I'm not as worried about need this year, as I am about making sure we get good players. I think you can plug and play at just any position if you get a good enough player.

[SudsMcBucky]

It's not so much focusing on need as it is avoiding positions where there is no need. You could easily draft the BPA but limit it to 6 or 8 positions where we aren't loaded already.

Is there a position on this team that we're already "loaded", other than QB?

[cheesner]

Is there a position on this team that we're already "loaded", other than QB?

At times our Safeties played as if they were loaded. Not sure if that counts.

[pbmax]

I kinda doubt Edge is getting a pick in the Top 2 rounds. Anything could happen and someone could drop, but I think 2 new starters plus Fackrell and Gilbert mean the position is settled for early picks.

So not loaded, but not bare either.

I’d prefer BPA, but I think they look elsewhere.

[texaspackerbacker]

Is there a position on this team that we're already "loaded", other than QB?

Wide Receiver, D Line, Corner, and now probably OLB. Maybe RB too.

[wist43]

We don't "need" anything really... there are some developmental receivers, we can patch and plug at safety, we can get by this year at TE, etc.

But in the big picture, we dont know if any, some or all of the WR's are going to turn out; pretty sure Burks is a lost cause; ditto Josh Jones; Martinez is average at best; the Smith's are really not LB's - either one of them; Bulaga's days are numbered; we could use another quality RB, etc, etc...

In short, we can take the BPA, and be confident he will become a useable asset very quickly.

[bobblehead]

CBS has a mock with the Packers trading both first round picks to the Bucs for Quinnen Williams.

I despise that idea. I am more and more liking the thought of moving back a bit and then using what we picked up to move up from 30. Finish with 15 and 19 maybe losing a bit extra in the process. We could get 2 real diff makers that way.

[wist43]

This draft is the most wide open draft I can remember... huge variance in projections.

Most drafts you get a pretty good idea who is going in the top 15, with a couple of oddball fliers in there; but, this year I've seen guys projected in the top 5 in one mock, and the mid-20's in others.

Add it up, and I have no idea what it means

[The Shadow]

If Devin White is gone by 12, move back & select Bush. Then move up for Marquise Brown for the slot.

[SudsMcBucky]

Wide Receiver, D Line, Corner, and now probably OLB. Maybe RB too.

We may have a lot of "guys" at those positions, but I wouldn't consider us "loaded" at any one of those. Maybe OLB would be the closest.

[run pMc]

but never throwing to anyone covered is too broad a statement.

It was an obvious exaggeratoin, but you get the point. He throws a lot less contested balls that he used to...and there were weekly posting on this forum from last year where he wasn't throwing to (or even seeing) open receivers.
I just don't see the value in Harry for R1, but I could certainly be wrong.

Simply put, I think there are other areas where the likely available talent and team needs come together better for GB when it comes to picking in R1.

Looking at it from a need standpoint...
They could use players everywhere except P, K, and possibly QB. They can go into the season with what they have at WR, but not RB, TE, or OL. They can go into the season with what they have at DL, ILB (even if it's not great), and possibly CB/EDGE, but not S. If they want to play less mistake-prone rookies, they will need to improve that depth and do some in-advance roster filling (like figuring out what to do about Mike Daniels, Bulaga, Tramon, and Jimmy Graham after this year).

I'm not advocating drafting purely by need, BTW. I think you want to find the best fits - based on your scheme and the talent, and if it's a tie between 2+ players you go with the one you need/like best. I'm glad to see more use of FA to fill holes or provide flexibility with drafting so they aren't left with playing people out of position or overly vulnerable.

[Deputy Nutz]

The more film I have watched, and the more I try to understand what the Packers' needs are in terms of their roster here is what I think they should do in the draft.

They need to move up if possible and draft Josh Allen. He is the only true 3-4 outside linebacker that can play in space, rush the passers, and cover down field. Every other edge guy is defensive end that tries to be a stand up OLB every now and again. It simply might not be possible to move up to get him and I understand that, but if the board goes wonky and QBs go higher than expected then I think the Packer look to package picks to get up and draft Allen.

If they can't draft Allen then they go defensively with their first pick they really need to think about drafting Ferrell, Bush, and possibly White if he falls.

If they go offense, they should have an opportunity at drafting one of the top three tackles in this draft. Jonah Williams can play all over the line and might be a nice right guard, or right tackle. He will have the opportunity to play right away. Dillard is another option. Jawan Taylor is at the top of the list but I wouldn't like him in Green Bay. The other is Dalton Risner. You might not want to draft him 12 over all, but you might want to move up from 30 to draft him. Risner can play all over, just not a left tackle.

Safety is really deep, the first tier of guys should start being drafted at the end of the first round and into the early 3rd round. Guys that I have in my first tier are: Johnathan Abrams, Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Taylor Rapp, Nazzir Adderley, Darnell Savage, Juan Thornhill.

So you say you want a dynamic playmaker on offense to complement Aaron Rodgers? Interesting. The first question I would ask, "Do you have any faith in the young guys drafted last year?"

MVS had a very commendable rookie campaign, and St. Brown is a physical specimen that has a weird family, but he is as athletic as anyone in this draft at the receiver position. You can go ahead and draft a receiver or tight end with the 30th pick and you will get a good wr, or a possibly great tight end, but TE is pretty deep in this draft and I could see a 3rd round out perform a the top 3 guys easily. It is all how you decide to use the TE.

[Deputy Nutz]

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