First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[wist43]

Ha; you started the revolt Benedict ) I believe it went something like this; this guy will be out of the league in 3 years

There is no doubt the guy has talent; but the talent is way higher than the production. Many Michigan fans call him an underachiever. Packer fans did too...UNTIL we drafted him.

Now we call him somebody with great upside.

Lies of omission B

You know me, I'm no homer... if I think a guy is good, bad, or a JAG, I have no problem owning it.

That said, I admitted I hadn't done my homework on Gary. After doing my due diligence, I now stand corrected, and think he has a chance to be a very good player for us.

The other guy I can remember doing a quick 180 on was Greg Jennings. Didn't like the pick at all initially, but attended some practices in person and could see right away the guy had skills.

Still hate the Burks pick from last year, if that helps

[Bretsky]

Lies of omission B

You know me, I'm no homer... if I think a guy is good, bad, or a JAG, I have no problem owning it.

That said, I admitted I hadn't done my homework on Gary. After doing my due diligence, I now stand corrected, and think he has a chance to be a very good player for us.

The other guy I can remember doing a quick 180 on was Greg Jennings. Didn't like the pick at all initially, but attended some practices in person and could see right away the guy had skills.

Still hate the Burks pick from last year, if that helps

You may be becoming weaker wisty. You've been a bit of a Gootie Homer and that may be clouding your overall judgement...lol

On the draft, you nearly always due your due diligence well ahead of time, and when you do have a strong view you let it be known right away and stick to it...regardless of what some of the film we can all see....often positively bias'd film....shows. You were spot on with guys like Owen Burks and the Dick the Plodder as well as Thornton. I just can't buy in; the dude has incredible talent but simply lacks production to come close to the talent he has. Nobody will ever try to argue he was an overachiever. And you know me....I have a soft spot for producers....guy like Chris Borland. But I hope you are right. I hope this staff has the ability to pull Garys' best out of him and he becomes a 10 plus sack guys for multiple seasons.

I do really dig you as a poster and love giving you shit occasionally. And affectionately I'd like to patent a phrase in memory of this draft that I might use mutliple times over the next ten years if I don't kick off first.

To Change ones Viewpoint, or Flip your Position ===== Pull a Gary

[Bretsky]

The way you phrase things is so blunt, it often makes me laugh my ass off. If you watch a full game tape though, you’ll see a guy achieving victories snap after snap. I’d call him an achiever and a great pick at 12.

I would call every athlete who gets a college scholarship and graduates an achiever

I'd call Gary a superior athlete and beast whose measurables are better than his production up to this point.

I'd also say he has a chance to be a multi Pro Bowler if his Pro coaches, can bring out his best. His college coaches really didn't. .

[wist43]

You may be becoming weaker wisty. You've been a bit of a Gootie Homer and that may be clouding your overall judgement...lol

On the draft, you nearly always due your due diligence well ahead of time, and when you do have a strong view you let it be known right away and stick to it...regardless of what some of the film we can all see....often positively bias'd film....shows. You were spot on with guys like Owen Burks and the Dick the Plodder as well as Thornton. I just can't buy in; the dude has incredible talent but simply lacks production to come close to the talent he has. Nobody will ever try to argue he was an overachiever. And you know me....I have a soft spot for producers....guy like Chris Borland. But I hope you are right. I hope this staff has the ability to pull Garys' best out of him and he becomes a 10 plus sack guys for multiple seasons.

I do really dig you as a poster and love giving you shit occasionally. And affectionately I'd like to patent a phrase in memory of this draft that I might use mutliple times over the next ten years if I don't kick off first.

To Change ones Viewpoint, or Flip your Position ===== Pull a Gary

Not a "gootie homer", lol...

Long story short, I'm a much happier Packer camper these days. Gute has made the moves I've been calling for. I tend to focus on defense, and this offseason specifically identified PSmith and Amos on my wishlist; and, had Barrett penciled in for the other signing b/c I thought ZSmith would be too expensive, but Gute managed to make the cap numbers work - so?? I'm a happy camper

Like the dog chasing the car and finally catching it - now what do I do?? lol.

[Iron Mike]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...ckers-defense/

[mraynrand]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...ckers-defense/

Greene, an undrafted safety who made the roster in 2018, surprised by playing some snaps as a hybrid linebacker Wednesday. It’s a spot in the defense previously occupied by Morgan Burnett, Josh Jones and Jermaine Whitehead, among others.

[RashanGary]

Andy Herman tweeted that Gary beat Bakh with speed today and then plowed through Turner. So nice start for him.

[mraynrand]

Andy Herman tweeted that Gary beat Bakh with speed today and then plowed through Turner. So nice start for him.

This just means Bacteria is in steep decline.

[Freak Out]

This just means Bacteria is in steep decline.

or was still drunk from the Bucks series.

[red]

Andy Herman tweeted that Gary beat Bakh with speed today and then plowed through Turner. So nice start for him.

Did he then pull up and watch others finish the play like he did in college?

[gbgary]

Did he then pull up and watch others finish the play like he did in college?

geesh. beat bakh and had a clear path for a sack. the red jersey stopped him.

[run pMc]

geesh. beat bakh and had a clear path for a sack. the red jersey stopped him.

Coach Mike Smith clearly bribed Bahk and Turner with Spotted Cow to boost Gary's confidence. :P

[RashanGary]

Rashan Gary 4-1 in one on one pass rush drills. For sure he beat Spriggs twice and Taylor once from 3t. Sounds like the guy I saw on tape. Can’t trust stats all of the time. The big 10 has a way of turning their best DL into run anchors. JJ Watt, Frank Clark and now Gary all looking like stud NFL pass rushers even tho they were run anchors who barely broke 5 sacks in the big 10.

[Upnorth]

Look, I want Gary to be a big, massive success but to put him in the same sentence as Watt, let alone compare the back ground.... I think the cart was on the road before the horse was even conceived on this statement JH.

[pbmax]

Look, I want Gary to be a big, massive success but to put him in the same sentence as Watt, let alone compare the back ground.... I think the cart was on the road before the horse was even conceived on this statement JH.

Also need to be careful with the glowing praise for B1G pass rushers. Watt is great, Frank Clark might be very good but you have a LOT of whiffs before you go back to Brandon Graham at Michigan as a clear pro monster. Also from Michigan.