First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[texaspackerbacker]

It's been said many times that it takes a year or two or three for a D Lineman to play to near his potential. I'm far from ready to give up on Gary. As bobblehead said above, you won't find any or many guys as big as him who can go all out all the time. He has hardly looked lazy to me. Additionally, he has only been used as a plain vanilla outside pass rusher so far, and only that in a plain vanilla base D without extra pass rushers coming up the middle. What they have talked about, and what should be a real sight to see is either Gary rushing inside with the two Smiths as bookend OLBs or Z. Smith rushing inside with Gary and the other Smith on the outside. When we start seeing that - regular season or one of the last two preseason games, then we can judge whether he might be a boom or a bust.

[QBME]

Not to be an asshole but I’m gonna be an asshole here. I’ve watched more practices than almost anyone here over the last 15 years. What happens in practice is more important than what happens in the preseason games for the roster locks like Gary or Davante Adams. Stat lines don’t mean shit in preseason. Gary destroying whoever was in front of him, Packer or Texan when the cameras weren’t on and other teams couldn’t watch. That’s what matters. Period.

And I can buy pettine saying Gary is not what he hoped for if I haven’t been already calling Gary’s role since day one. I knew he was a pass rush specialist in year one. I’ve been saying it for months. Nobody with football intelligence is surprised that Rashan Gary isn’t a polished OLB right now. Facts.

Wow. Gotta go with this one. RG is a 6 week old pup. Let's all take a step back and see if he learns.

[Bretsky]

Someone called for a Clay-like 10 sacks out of him his rookie season - and after 2 preseason games in which he played a fair number of snaps his line is 0-0 0.0. Ouch

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Just Like Michigan

[Bretsky]

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And I can buy pettine saying Gary is not what he hoped for if I haven’t been already calling Gary’s role since day one. I knew he was a pass rush specialist in year one. I’ve been saying it for months. Nobody with football intelligence is surprised that Rashan Gary isn’t a polished OLB right now. Facts.[/QUOTE]


Certainly respect your view; but it's concerning when we hear about dominance in practice following by nothingness in Games

Is Gary really suited to be a 4-3 DE ? Hear that on ESPN 1070 today. Sounded familiar

[Bretsky]

Speaking of someone who’s gonna blow expectations out of the water, MVS is a beast. I’ve watched it. Regular season will prove it.

He seemed like he had a TON of talent last year

Different from Kumerow, who has limited upside but seems to be consistently decent enough to play in the NFL....kinda opposite of Moore....loads of talent but fails to make plays

[mraynrand]

With really hard work, Kumerow might surpass Brett Swain in long term influence.

[RashanGary]

2 Games
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Huge Upside


Just Like Michigan

No opinions that differ from my opinion on Gary will be tolerated here

I really hope I’m right this time! We need some juice!

[Bretsky]

No opinions that differ from my opinion on Gary will be tolerated here

I really hope I’m right this time! We need some juice!

DUDE I hope you are right !!!!

[pbmax]

Certainly respect your view; but it's concerning when we hear about dominance in practice following by nothingness in Games

Is Gary really suited to be a 4-3 DE ? Hear that on ESPN 1070 today. Sounded familiar

This is just recycled Perry non-sense. Its like Mad Libs for football. This player is struggling at OLB because ___________. [choose one] too heavy/too skinny/4-3 DE/hands are small

I agree with Justin that suddenly being disappointed that he might be a pass rushing specialist is just too cute by half. That was exactly what the team wanted when they drafted him. No problem if it takes a year or even two to become a full fledged OLB.

What concerns me is that it hasn't shown up in games. And I consider that more important that defeating the 2nd and 3rd string regularly in practice. There is just no bend or snap, no closing. Looks more like Fackrell than anyone else so far. All this length and quickness getting nowhere. He can be disruptive, but he doesn't get to the QB, which right now makes him a nice complement to the pass rush.

[pbmax]

Kumerow is the guy you can survive and function and win with for a while if pressed into starting. He will get open. I am just not sure he will help carry the team at WR. Needs better talent ahead of him.

He's Derek Loville of WR.

[Fritz]

This is just recycled Perry non-sense. Its like Mad Libs for football. This player is struggling at OLB because ___________. [choose one] too heavy/too skinny/4-3 DE/hands are small

I agree with Justin that suddenly being disappointed that he might be a pass rushing specialist is just too cute by half. That was exactly what the team wanted when they drafted him. No problem if it takes a year or even two to become a full fledged OLB.

What concerns me is that it hasn't shown up in games. And I consider that more important that defeating the 2nd and 3rd string regularly in practice. There is just no bend or snap, no closing. Looks more like Fackrell than anyone else so far. All this length and quickness getting nowhere. He can be disruptive, but he doesn't get to the QB, which right now makes him a nice complement to the pass rush.

Gary is, as Shakespeare said, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

[gbgary]

I don't really want to be known as a Gary defender. To date he has lived up to his resume. Great athlete who doesn't produce.

However,

Came to camp out of shape? The man weighs 276 and had a body fat of 10%. That's obscene. And as far as quitting on a couple plays, show me any player over 250 in the NFL and I'll show you a few clips of him letting up when the play went away, or is out of reach. I do appreciate the high motor freaks, but they are the exception not the rule (I often said it was Clay's only real attribute).

exactly!

Not to be an asshole but I’m gonna be an asshole here. I’ve watched more practices than almost anyone here over the last 15 years. What happens in practice is more important than what happens in the preseason games for the roster locks like Gary or Davante Adams. Stat lines don’t mean shit in preseason. Gary destroying whoever was in front of him, Packer or Texan when the cameras weren’t on and other teams couldn’t watch. That’s what matters. Period.

And I can buy pettine saying Gary is not what he hoped for if I haven’t been already calling Gary’s role since day one. I knew he was a pass rush specialist in year one. I’ve been saying it for months. Nobody with football intelligence is surprised that Rashan Gary isn’t a polished OLB right now. Facts.

agreed!

[bobblehead]

Wow. Gotta go with this one. RG is a 6 week old pup. Let's all take a step back and see if he learns.

True. It took TJ Watt almost 5 weeks to excel.

[bobblehead]

No opinions that differ from my opinion on Gary will be tolerated here

I really hope I’m right this time! We need some juice!

We are all dying to eat crow Well, I've hedged from day 2 so its more like eating....well, some other bird.

[texaspackerbacker]

I have been and still am as positive as anybody about Gary. On the other hand, though, my first thought when they drafted him is the Packers have made a habit of drafting oversize outside pass rushers/DEs/OLBs over the years - Nick Perry, Datone Jones (Clay Matthews being the exception). This might even still be a reaction to the debacle of drafting Jamal Reynolds - who I was absolutely all in for at the time he was drafted.

I sincerely hope Gary doesn't turn out to be the next incarnation of Nick Perry and Datone Jones.