First Round Pick 2019 #2, Darnell Savage

[Tony Oday]

Wist being a Packer fan forever cast a dark cloud.

Love both picks.

[mission]

I like this Savage pick... definitely reminds me some of Earl Thomas with maybe a little less ball skills.

[Deputy Nutz]

I really like Savage. I didn't understand a few weeks ago why there was no buzz about this guy, and then last weekend he went skyrocketing up draft boards. I really like the player, but dislike the pick. What I honestly think happened was that earlier in the draft the Steelers trade up in the draft and selected Devin Bush. I believe Bush was at the top of the Packers list. The Packers were not going to let another team jump or steal their top rated safety so they traded up 9 spots and took Savage. Those 4th round picks are pretty valuable especially looking at the group of inside linebackers available.

I don't understand moving up in the draft to take the first guy in the positional tier.

[bobblehead]

I really like Savage. I didn't understand a few weeks ago why there was no buzz about this guy, and then last weekend he went skyrocketing up draft boards. I really like the player, but dislike the pick. What I honestly think happened was that earlier in the draft the Steelers trade up in the draft and selected Devin Bush. I believe Bush was at the top of the Packers list. The Packers were not going to let another team jump or steal their top rated safety so they traded up 9 spots and took Savage. Those 4th round picks are pretty valuable especially looking at the group of inside linebackers available.

I don't understand moving up in the draft to take the first guy in the positional tier.

Its pretty simple really. If you are gutes, you better be correct. You waste draft capital to make this move you better have the best DB in this class or you are foolish. I hate picking Gary when we could have taken sweat or traded down. I understand the man is a freak at his size. His numbers were comparable to TJ Watt, but 20 pounds heavier. .3 seconds faster in a straight line. I hate trading capital to move up here when there were 4-5 comparable safeties imo. Gutes is trusting his evaluators and he thinks he got 2 incredible players. With a 12 pick that likely had value in a trade and then using 2 high 4ths to move up....you simply better be right.

[Packers4Glory]

Alexander and King run like deer. They can stick with guys down the sidelines. Savage is one of very few safeties in the NFL who’s both smart enough and fast enough to cover the deep middle by himself. Being able to play cover 1 opens up so many things. Instead of two players covering the deep middle, one guy is doing it. That’s an extra player free do do anything else. The packers just became one of a handful of teams that can employ cover 1 coverage with confidence.

It’s even better because now Adrian Amos and Tramon Williams (slot) are two very smart and savvy interior secondary players. These two can work together to create all sorts of chaos in the shallow to intermediate middle of the field.

We’re missing one piece to our back 7. We’re missing a bonafide pass defense linebacker to pair with Martinez. Drue Tranquill or Cody Barton would round out this draft and make me so excited for our pass defense, I won’t be able to contain it!

King? who the fuck is that? He's he that guy that is never on the field because his pussy hurts?

[bobblehead]

King? who the fuck is that? He's he that guy that is never on the field because his pussy hurts?

Guys get hurt. Guys stay healthy. See Hayward, Casey. Kings career has yet to be defined.

[mraynrand]

Its pretty simple really. If you are gutes, you better be correct. You waste draft capital to make this move you better have the best DB in this class or you are foolish. I hate picking Gary when we could have taken sweat or traded down. I understand the man is a freak at his size. His numbers were comparable to TJ Watt, but 20 pounds heavier. .3 seconds faster in a straight line. I hate trading capital to move up here when there were 4-5 comparable safeties imo. Gutes is trusting his evaluators and he thinks he got 2 incredible players. With a 12 pick that likely had value in a trade and then using 2 high 4ths to move up....you simply better be right.

Yep. You go Shermy, your players all have to pan out.

[Packers4Glory]

Guys get hurt. Guys stay healthy. See Hayward, Casey. Kings career has yet to be defined.

Pretty damn close as a guy who couldn't stay on the field.

[pbmax]

Wist being a Packer fan forever cast a dark cloud.

Love both picks.

Welcome to the optimist club.

Will you be returning to the pessimist club during the season?

[pbmax]

I really like Savage. I didn't understand a few weeks ago why there was no buzz about this guy, and then last weekend he went skyrocketing up draft boards. I really like the player, but dislike the pick. What I honestly think happened was that earlier in the draft the Steelers trade up in the draft and selected Devin Bush. I believe Bush was at the top of the Packers list. The Packers were not going to let another team jump or steal their top rated safety so they traded up 9 spots and took Savage. Those 4th round picks are pretty valuable especially looking at the group of inside linebackers available.

I don't understand moving up in the draft to take the first guy in the positional tier.

1. Pettine shopping list rather than tier: find me Ed Reed and not Clinton Dix or Calvin Pryor.

2. Its been reported before that what really happens after the combine when all these prospects start "moving" is that teams are meeting and coming to consensus rather than relying on draft pundits and tape eaters. So sometime after the combine, actual information about how teams view players starts to penetrate the media's skulls.

3. Still having a hard time believing that this team would take an ILB that early. But maybe he was.

[pbmax]

Its not BPA. Its just another version of what Ted was trying to do since 2011.

Its obvious where Savage fits in. Still a little unclear on where Gary fits in. But I suppose the coaches don't know yet either.

I'd bet its BPA from this point forward unless there is an OL they really want early in Round 2.

[Fritz]

If you spent two fourth round picks and a first round pick on a guy, he'd better be Ed Reed or Earl Thomas.

Bobble hit the nail on the head. Gute better be right on at least one of these two first round guys, or he might have a shorter GM career than the other (ex) Packer execs who are now running teams.

[mraynrand]

3. Still having a hard time believing that this team would take an ILB that early. But maybe he was.

Based on recent experience that the Steelers always take the guy I want the Packers to take, I have to believe they would have snapped him up if he dropped to them. After he was gone, I think they really went to the guy they thought was BPA/Best upside.

[Vincenzo]

IMO he'll be our best 1st round draft pick today

Gotta agree cuz Gary at #12 just doesn’t do it for many of us. Savage looks like a force to be dealt with!

[pbmax]

Based on recent experience that the Steelers always take the guy I want the Packers to take, I have to believe they would have snapped him up if he dropped to them. After he was gone, I think they really went to the guy they thought was BPA/Best upside.

Based on the recent experience of both defenses, they should stop listening to each other.