2019 OFFICIAL DAY TWO------ROUUND 2/3 NFL DRAFT THREAD

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^^^ The offense was broken with several rookies and young guys out there. There are people who like ESB's athleticism and Exxon-Valdez Scantron's speed. The talent level might be better than people generally believe.

I would like one more weapon in there. Maybe a quicker or bigger Cobb type who isn't injured all the time.

esb was actually projected to be a 2nd rounder last year

i still dont know why he dropped

[Joemailman]

https://gbnreport.com/updated-2019-gbn-big-board/

Updated 2019 GBN Big Board
Posted: April 24, 2019 | 0 comments
Jawaan Taylor OT 6-5, 312 5.35 Florida JR
DK Metcalf WR 6-3, 228 4.33 Mississippi RSO
Cody Ford OG 6-4, 330 5.21 Oklahoma JR
Drew Lock QB 6-4, 228 4.70 Missouri SR
Greedy Williams CB 6-2, 185 4.37 LSU RSO
Byron Murphy CB 5-11, 190 4.55 Washington RSO
AJ Brown WR 6-1, 226 4.50 Mississippi JR
Rock Ya-Sin CB 6-0, 192 4.52 Temple SR
Nasir Adderley FS 6-0, 206 4.55 Delaware SR
Dalton Risner C/T 6-5, 312 5.30 Kansas State SR
Erik McCoy C 6-4, 303 4.89 Texas A&M JR
Taylor Rapp SS 6-0, 215 4.55 Washington JR
Parris Campbell WR 6-0, 205 4.31 Ohio State SR
Justin Layne CB 6-2, 185 4.50 Michigan State JR
Connor McGovern C/G 6-6, 308 5.20 Penn State JR
Jaylon Ferguson DE 6-5, 255 4.85 Louisiana Tech SR
Miles Sanders RB 5-11, 211 4.49 Penn State JR
Elgton Jenkins C 6-5, 315 5.35 Mississippi State SR
Dre’Mont Jones DT 6-3, 281 5.12 Ohio State JR
Julian Love CB 5-11, 195 4.54 Notre Dame JR
Deebo Samuel WR 5-11, 214 4.48 South Carolina SR
Chauncey Gardner-Johnson DB 5-11, 210 4.48 Florida JR
Ryan Finley QB 6-4, 213 4.73 North Carolina State SR
Mack Wilson ILB 6-1, 240 4.75 Alabama JR
Juan Thornhill FS 6-0, 206 4.42 Virginia SR
Zach Allen DE 6-4, 281 5.00 Boston College SR
Irv Smith TE 6-3, 242 4.63 Alabama JR
Hakeem Butler WR 6-6, 227 4.48 Iowa State JR
Joejuan Williams CB 6-4, 211 4.65 Vanderbilt JR
Greg Little OT 6-5, 320 5.33 Mississippi JR
Chase Winovich DE 6-3, 256 4.59 Michigan SR
Will Grier QB 6-3, 217 4.84 West Virginia SR
Riley Ridley WR 6-2, 200 4.50 Georgia JR
Darnell Savage FS 5-11, 198 4.36 Maryland SR
Gerald Willis DT 6-2, 302 4.95 Miami SR
D’Andre Walker DE 6-3, 251 4.65 Georgia SR
David Montgomery RB 5-10, 220 4.52 Iowa State JR
Amani Oruwariye CB 6-2, 205 4.47 Penn State SR
Kelvin Harmon WR 6-3, 221 4.60 North Carolina State JR
Deionte Thompson FS 6-1, 195 4.50 Alabama JR
Sean Bunting CB 6-1, 195 4.42 Central Michigan JR
Trysten Hill DT 6-3, 308 5.05 Central Florida JR
Terry McLaurin WR 6-0, 208 4.35 Ohio State SR
Amani Hooker FS 6-0, 210 4.48 Iowa JR
Damien Harris RB 5-10, 215 4.57 Alabama SR
Germaine Pratt ILB 6-3, 240 4.57 North Carolina State SR
Emanuel Hall WR 6-2, 200 4.40 Missouri SR
Vosean Joseph OLB 6-2, 230 4.60 Florida JR
Jace Sternberger TE 6-4, 251 4.75 Texas A&M JR
Yodny Cajuste OT 6-5, 312 5.20 West Virginia SR

[Fritz]

What? There's more picks? Given the general whining and crying yesterday you would have thought the Packers draft and season was already ruined, so why bother even picking anyone else?

That would be me. I think Gutekunst botched the first round, badly. I'm having a hard time getting excited about what else he might do.

But I would like to see them pick up an offensive tackle in the second round, if any of those big names Nutz has listed are available. Be nice to have someone solid ready to go when Bulaga goes down.

Or maybe a tight end to develop, and a running back.

Yet, they still need someone who can actually sack the quarterback, because while Rashan Gary is a great athlete, and he eats up a lot of blockers, and he can get close to a QB, he can't get a damn sack.

I'm telling you, he's the next Mike Neal, or Dante Jones. You all okay with that in your #12 overall pick??

Gary's teammate at Michigan, Winovich, will be, I think, a better NFL football player than Gary.

[mraynrand]

Gary's teammate at Michigan, Winovich, will be, I think, a better NFL football player than Gary.

hard to believe this unless Gary has a character problem and/or has awful football instincts.

[mraynrand]

A.J. Brown. Played a lot of slot when Metcalf was playing. Moved outside when Metcalf was hurt.

good call. Or go big with Butler or small/quick with Isabella later.

[Fritz]

What makes this hard to believe? Winovich is the guy who actually plays with his hair on fire. I'm not saying he's the next Clay Matthews; I'm suggesting that even if he's only okay, or pretty good, he'll be better in the NFL than Gary.

I really, really, dislike that Gary pick. I'd have been fine with an offensive tackle, with Burns, with Sweat, maybe even, with someone else. But I watched Gary come into the U of M program with the biggest hype surrounding a high school athlete since Antoine "The Judge" Joubert, who came out of Detroit as the most hightly recruited high school basketball player of all time (at that time). Well, once Joubert started playing at Michigan, we nicknamed him "The Sludge" because he was slow - he was okay in college, but not what the hype led you to believe. The dude had a career playing basketball after that in . . . Europe.

That's how I see Rashan Gary. All show, no go.

[Joemailman]

That would be me. I think Gutekunst botched the first round, badly. I'm having a hard time getting excited about what else he might do.

But I would like to see them pick up an offensive tackle in the second round, if any of those big names Nutz has listed are available. Be nice to have someone solid ready to go when Bulaga goes down.

Or maybe a tight end to develop, and a running back.

Yet, they still need someone who can actually sack the quarterback, because while Rashan Gary is a great athlete, and he eats up a lot of blockers, and he can get close to a QB, he can't get a damn sack.

I'm telling you, he's the next Mike Neal, or Dante Jones. You all okay with that in your #12 overall pick??

Gary's teammate at Michigan, Winovich, will be, I think, a better NFL football player than Gary.

Actually, the Packers were 8th in the NFL in sacks last year. The problem was getting consistent pressure. Partly as a result of that, although they were 8th in sacks, they were 30th in INT's. If Gary can help them get more consistent pressure, the defense will be much better. I'm not really defending picking him 12th. I think they should have traded down. But I could see him being more productive in Pettine's defense than he was at Michigan.

[Fritz]

Well,I do hope you're right. I'm hoping that, in a couple years, I have to eat crow because Gary became the engine that made the defense go.

I'd be happy to be wrong about this.

[pbmax]

Packers would have a strange training table with this guy.

Would rule out a game in the UK. Pretty sure they frown on that.

[pbmax]

What makes this hard to believe? Winovich is the guy who actually plays with his hair on fire. I'm not saying he's the next Clay Matthews; I'm suggesting that even if he's only okay, or pretty good, he'll be better in the NFL than Gary.

I really, really, dislike that Gary pick. I'd have been fine with an offensive tackle, with Burns, with Sweat, maybe even, with someone else. But I watched Gary come into the U of M program with the biggest hype surrounding a high school athlete since Antoine "The Judge" Joubert, who came out of Detroit as the most hightly recruited high school basketball player of all time (at that time). Well, once Joubert started playing at Michigan, we nicknamed him "The Sludge" because he was slow - he was okay in college, but not what the hype led you to believe. The dude had a career playing basketball after that in . . . Europe.

That's how I see Rashan Gary. All show, no go.

There is the Brooks Reed/late stage Clay Matthews effect you see from time to time. Excellent motor but no more power (or perhaps unwillingness to give up the body). Possible that in the pros Mr. Motor (doesn't have to be limited to Winovich) isn't all that effective while looking like a whirling dervish.

They do a lot of running around and chase down a fair amount of plays, but they don't actually help you dominate at the point of attack. That is a bit unfair to Matthews who has learned to play the run much better as he got older (and no longer had to worry about Kaepernick)

[wist43]

What? There's more picks? Given the general whining and crying yesterday you would have thought the Packers draft and season was already ruined, so why bother even picking anyone else?

Hear, hear!!!!

After drafting The Bust at 12... not much point in picking anyone else.

This draft is shot

[pbmax]

In Oakland, they kick the scouts out.

With wist as scout, he leaves the building in a huff if he doesn't agree with the GM's pick

[RashanGary]

Some guys I think fit what the Packers are trying to do



Eric McCoy G/C fits zone. Reliable. Good
Julian Love CB smart. Athletic enough. Makes plays
Cody Barton ILB plus pass defense. Solid run d. Good fit for Martinez
Drue Tranquill ILB same as Barton
Juan Thornhill FS similar to Savage but not as smart
JJ Arcega Whiteside WR Savvy, solid
Dawson Knox TE - plus blocker. Plus athlete. Underutilized
Nate Davis OG - excellent second level blocker. Good zone fit
Jarrett Stidham QB Late round - Gritty, tough, good enough arm
Easton stick QB Late round - gamer
Damien Harris RB 3rd or later - good vision and long speed. Ryan Grant zon type
David Montgomery 3rd or later - zone runner
Ryquel armsted 3rd or later - zone runner
Khleb Saunders - 3rd or later sleeper DT
John Commonsky DE - later round - high upside DL
Anthony Nelson DE - still growing into 6’7” body. High upside

[mraynrand]

Hear, hear!!!!

After drafting The Bust at 12... not much point in picking anyone else.

This draft is shot

Wist be watching the draft:

[theeaterofshades]

First things first:

Pack will likely move back in 2nd or 3rd and re-acquire a 4th.

My Wants for 2nd and 3rd Rnd:

1) ROT
2) ILB
3) Slot Receiver
4) TE (I do think we could get by for another year with Graham as TE was not a particularly strong draft group this year for Blocking/Catching outside of Hock)
5) C/G gives some flexibility for Injuries

Rounds 4-7
1) What ever falls from above player wise/not picked
2) 3rd Down Back/Scatback
3) CB/S Utility guy (Micah Hyde type)
4) David Sills (Good Receiver with QB background)
5) QB Easton Stick or Gardner Minchew We need a solid back up