McCarthy/Thompson —-> Gute/Lafleur transition

[RashanGary]

I listened to all of the defensive coaches last week. This week, I listened to all of the offensive coaches.

Going in, the young offensive staff and the young GM and personnel staff... I had questions. But I was going to keep an open mind.

i’m gonna go ahead and say, i’m optimistic right now. All of the coaches call Gute, Gutey. So they’re all clearly close to each other. Pettine specifically mentioned being on the same page as Gutey, and so has Lafleur. From top down, I feel like there is great understanding and communication. As good as tt was at finding talent, in hindsight, now that the communication is so good and you can hear it, I look back and see how it wasn’t always with Ted.

One thing I did appreciate about Thompson is he didn’t pigeon hole just one type of guy. He’d draft an athlete like Lang one year and a mailer like Sitton the next. He’d draft Mike Daniels one year and Kenny Clark another year. He was open to all different styles of talent. And even though coaches tend to want different types, I don’t think anyone ever complained about having Daniels even though he wasn’t a system fit or Bakhtiari and down the line.

Gute seems to have better communication with the coaching staff and the whole team seems to feel heard and empowered and understood. Maybe they’ll lose a little bit in just passing up excellent players because they’re not system fits. But overall, I can see some advantages in Gutes show compared to Thompson’s and he is showing to be very capable with drafting Alexander and MVS and EQ and I’m sure one or two more will show up this year.

The next thing I notice, and this might be even more contrasting to McCarthys regime, is the assistants and Pettine all seem more empowered, excited, engaged and inspired. The offensive coaches do talk about making sure they’re carrying Matt’s message, but I get this coaching staff feels a greater sense of ownership and enthusiasm. Lafleur also seems very approachable in that I hear him just admit he didn’t think of something or maybe doesn’t know. I get the sense people feel safe and comfortable to contribute with him.

McCarthy/Thompson, I get the feeling the communication started and stopped with MM. he controlled every voice. Now, I feel like it’s a whole trust built team where everyone communicates and as a group get on the same page. It leads to what looks like greater enthusiasm, ownership and passion.

I’m going to say now, I’m a fan of what’s going on. I’m warming up to Lafleur and I think Gute is just an incredible personal guy and all around good dude that everyone wants to work with. I’m excited.

My last question is Aaron’s stubbornness. He already said he’s going to come in and put his stamp and creativity on Lafleurs offense. I really hope he doesn’t keep changing runs to passes and running the show. I hope he implements Lafeurs tempo changes instead of trying to nit pick at the line on every play. Sometimes just get up there and snap the ball has its own charm in keeping the defense off balance. So I hope Aaron can adjust some. We won’t know till a few games in.

So far I’m liking the new regime though. I get a good feel for everyone feeling empowered, heard and excited to just be themselves and bring their own personal impact.

[gbgary]

as long as ball stays in his lane...and moves on in a year or so.

[mraynrand]

as long as ball stays in his silo...and moves on in a year or so.

FIFY.

[texaspackerbacker]

I like what you said, Justin, with one glaring exception. I absolutely do want Aaron Rodgers to consistently change running plays to pass plays. However, I don't think there will be nearly as many running plays even called as some in here seem to think. If LaFleur is smart - and there's every indication he is, he will emphasize what the Packer personnel is best suited for: pass first.

[mraynrand]

I like what you said, Justin, with one glaring exception. I absolutely do want Aaron Rodgers to consistently change running plays to pass plays. However, I don't think there will be nearly as many running plays even called as some in here seem to think. If LaFleur is smart - and there's every indication he is, he will emphasize what the Packer personnel is best suited for: pass first.

I think Rodgers should just consistently change plays to those that don't work.

[Radagast]

I listened to all of the defensive coaches last week. This week, I listened to all of the offensive coaches.

Going in, the young offensive staff and the young GM and personnel staff... I had questions. But I was going to keep an open mind.

i’m gonna go ahead and say, i’m optimistic right now. All of the coaches call Gute, Gutey. So they’re all clearly close to each other. Pettine specifically mentioned being on the same page as Gutey, and so has Lafleur. From top down, I feel like there is great understanding and communication. As good as tt was at finding talent, in hindsight, now that the communication is so good and you can hear it, I look back and see how it wasn’t always with Ted.

One thing I did appreciate about Thompson is he didn’t pigeon hole just one type of guy. He’d draft an athlete like Lang one year and a mailer like Sitton the next. He’d draft Mike Daniels one year and Kenny Clark another year. He was open to all different styles of talent. And even though coaches tend to want different types, I don’t think anyone ever complained about having Daniels even though he wasn’t a system fit or Bakhtiari and down the line.

Gute seems to have better communication with the coaching staff and the whole team seems to feel heard and empowered and understood. Maybe they’ll lose a little bit in just passing up excellent players because they’re not system fits. But overall, I can see some advantages in Gutes show compared to Thompson’s and he is showing to be very capable with drafting Alexander and MVS and EQ and I’m sure one or two more will show up this year.

The next thing I notice, and this might be even more contrasting to McCarthys regime, is the assistants and Pettine all seem more empowered, excited, engaged and inspired. The offensive coaches do talk about making sure they’re carrying Matt’s message, but I get this coaching staff feels a greater sense of ownership and enthusiasm. Lafleur also seems very approachable in that I hear him just admit he didn’t think of something or maybe doesn’t know. I get the sense people feel safe and comfortable to contribute with him.

McCarthy/Thompson, I get the feeling the communication started and stopped with MM. he controlled every voice. Now, I feel like it’s a whole trust built team where everyone communicates and as a group get on the same page. It leads to what looks like greater enthusiasm, ownership and passion.

I’m going to say now, I’m a fan of what’s going on. I’m warming up to Lafleur and I think Gute is just an incredible personal guy and all around good dude that everyone wants to work with. I’m excited.

My last question is Aaron’s stubbornness. He already said he’s going to come in and put his stamp and creativity on Lafleurs offense. I really hope he doesn’t keep changing runs to passes and running the show. I hope he implements Lafeurs tempo changes instead of trying to nit pick at the line on every play. Sometimes just get up there and snap the ball has its own charm in keeping the defense off balance. So I hope Aaron can adjust some. We won’t know till a few games in.

So far I’m liking the new regime though. I get a good feel for everyone feeling empowered, heard and excited to just be themselves and bring their own personal impact.

A few short questions if you please.

You post as though you have been with or have a close link with the team. Is this so or do you just want people to think so?

Most of us read the stories posted on the more well known sites and publications. For the most part even they don't write as though they are team insiders as you do. Do you have a neighbor that is a coach/trainer from which you gleen your information?

Last, and I don't mean any harm, but your post would be more readable if you could shorten/consolidate your message. Long and drawn out post get the first few lines read and then most (including myself) simply move on to the next poster.

Your message does matter, but making them more readable would be a good thing.

[mraynrand]

Last, and I don't mean any harm, but your post would be more readable if you could shorten/consolidate your message. Long and drawn out post get the first few lines read and then most (including myself) simply move on to the next poster.

MayB Twitter s ur thing?

[pbmax]

McCarthy/Thompson, I get the feeling the communication started and stopped with MM. he controlled every voice. Now, I feel like it’s a whole trust built team where everyone communicates and as a group get on the same page. It leads to what looks like greater enthusiasm, ownership and passion.

Most teams don't make assistant coaches available during game weeks. McCarthy did for most, if not all, his tenure. Every Tuesday if I recall. I don't think this is a sign of a guy trying to control every voice. That would be a Belichick varietal. Not sure if every assistant was out there each week, but at a minimum the three coordinators were.

We don't know if this access will extend to the regular season for LaFleur.

Its fun to hear new voices and I was excited to hear that Hackett was excited at the plays he thought his offense was making even though they were in shorts.

But every new coach is like this. The proof will be on game day.

[mraynrand]

good use of 'varietal'

[pbmax]

good use of 'varietal'

Like everyone else in the Great Recession, I began brewing session beers and planted grapes as a backup plan. My house smells like wort and jam.

[Vincenzo]

A few short questions if you please.

You post as though you have been with or have a close link with the team. Is this so or do you just want people to think so?

Most of us read the stories posted on the more well known sites and publications. For the most part even they don't write as though they are team insiders as you do. Do you have a neighbor that is a coach/trainer from which you gleen your information?

Last, and I don't mean any harm, but your post would be more readable if you could shorten/consolidate your message. Long and drawn out post get the first few lines read and then most (including myself) simply move on to the next poster.

Your message does matter, but making them more readable would be a good thing.

I didn’t find Justin’s post long and drawn out at all, in fact I don’t often read a post word for word, but found he held my interest right to the end. The most refreshing part was there wasn’t a hint of “know-it-all, blowhard stuff.”

You gotta like JH’s enthusiasm, especially after such big change in staff.
Thanks for the post, Justin!

[Cheesehead Craig]

I listened to all of the defensive coaches last week. This week, I listened to all of the offensive coaches.

Going in, the young offensive staff and the young GM and personnel staff... I had questions. But I was going to keep an open mind.

i’m gonna go ahead and say, i’m optimistic right now. All of the coaches call Gute, Gutey. So they’re all clearly close to each other. Pettine specifically mentioned being on the same page as Gutey, and so has Lafleur. From top down, I feel like there is great understanding and communication. As good as tt was at finding talent, in hindsight, now that the communication is so good and you can hear it, I look back and see how it wasn’t always with Ted.

One thing I did appreciate about Thompson is he didn’t pigeon hole just one type of guy. He’d draft an athlete like Lang one year and a mailer like Sitton the next. He’d draft Mike Daniels one year and Kenny Clark another year. He was open to all different styles of talent. And even though coaches tend to want different types, I don’t think anyone ever complained about having Daniels even though he wasn’t a system fit or Bakhtiari and down the line.

Gute seems to have better communication with the coaching staff and the whole team seems to feel heard and empowered and understood. Maybe they’ll lose a little bit in just passing up excellent players because they’re not system fits. But overall, I can see some advantages in Gutes show compared to Thompson’s and he is showing to be very capable with drafting Alexander and MVS and EQ and I’m sure one or two more will show up this year.

The next thing I notice, and this might be even more contrasting to McCarthys regime, is the assistants and Pettine all seem more empowered, excited, engaged and inspired. The offensive coaches do talk about making sure they’re carrying Matt’s message, but I get this coaching staff feels a greater sense of ownership and enthusiasm. Lafleur also seems very approachable in that I hear him just admit he didn’t think of something or maybe doesn’t know. I get the sense people feel safe and comfortable to contribute with him.

McCarthy/Thompson, I get the feeling the communication started and stopped with MM. he controlled every voice. Now, I feel like it’s a whole trust built team where everyone communicates and as a group get on the same page. It leads to what looks like greater enthusiasm, ownership and passion.

I’m going to say now, I’m a fan of what’s going on. I’m warming up to Lafleur and I think Gute is just an incredible personal guy and all around good dude that everyone wants to work with. I’m excited.

My last question is Aaron’s stubbornness. He already said he’s going to come in and put his stamp and creativity on Lafleurs offense. I really hope he doesn’t keep changing runs to passes and running the show. I hope he implements Lafeurs tempo changes instead of trying to nit pick at the line on every play. Sometimes just get up there and snap the ball has its own charm in keeping the defense off balance. So I hope Aaron can adjust some. We won’t know till a few games in.

So far I’m liking the new regime though. I get a good feel for everyone feeling empowered, heard and excited to just be themselves and bring their own personal impact.

Excellent jorb JH!

[RashanGary]

A few short questions if you please.

You post as though you have been with or have a close link with the team. Is this so or do you just want people to think so?

Most of us read the stories posted on the more well known sites and publications. For the most part even they don't write as though they are team insiders as you do. Do you have a neighbor that is a coach/trainer from which you gleen your information?

Last, and I don't mean any harm, but your post would be more readable if you could shorten/consolidate your message. Long and drawn out post get the first few lines read and then most (including myself) simply move on to the next poster.

Your message does matter, but making them more readable would be a good thing.

It probably was long.

As far as the nature of the content, i’m a very intense and intuitive listener. I pay very close attention not just to what is said, but body language and mood and context. I don’t know anything, but I have a good sense for peoples emotions and I can often times feel when something is going well or going poorly.

I also have a flexible mind so I will quickly change my opinion upon being shown new information. I’m not set in any one mindset.

Team dynamic and relationships are as important to success imo as 40 times and height/weight. So while you may be shut off to relational dynamics and think I’m an idiot talking about shit that doesn’t matter or I couldn’t possibly know, my record of feeling things out when a lot of people have no clue is pretty good.

[red]

It probably was long.

As far as the nature of the content, i’m a very intense and intuitive listener. I pay very close attention not just to what is said, but body language and mood and context. I don’t know anything, but I have a good sense for peoples emotions and I can often times feel when something is going well or going poorly.

I also have a flexible mind so I will quickly change my opinion upon being shown new information. I’m not set in any one mindset.

Team dynamic and relationships are as important to success imo as 40 times and height/weight. So while you may be shut off to relational dynamics and think I’m an idiot talking about shit that doesn’t matter or I couldn’t possibly know, my record of feeling things out when a lot of people have no clue is pretty good.

It wasn’t too long

You had shit to say and you said it

If people are easily board by reading things then they can stick to the forums with more pictures

Everyone on the team, the staff and the fans should be at least a little excited right now. One of my biggest gripes about fat dickhead was that things had just gotten too stale

I’m not completely sold on the new staff yet, but you gotta enjoy the breaths of fresh air right now

[Joemailman]

It wasn’t too long

You had shit to say and you said it

If people are easily board by reading things then they can stick to the forums with more pictures

Everyone on the team, the staff and the fans should be at least a little excited right now. One of my biggest gripes about fat dickhead was that things had just gotten too stale

I’m not completely sold on the new staff yet, but you gotta enjoy the breaths of fresh air right now[

Yeah, it was hard to get excited about some of the coaching additions MM brought in last year. For the fans, and I suspect, the players. I think it manifested itself in Rodgers' play, and in some of the terrible 1st half performances the team had last year. Some of the coaching additions on the offensive side do seem to have a short resume, so we'll see. More uncertainty, but definitely more excitement.