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if they were to move Barnett to SAM, they should have done it during hte Pre-Season. I wish they would have. BUT....he might actually be too small...so i donno. I'm not a POOPinga fan, I want to be...BUT...i see him as a lot of energy...but that might just mean he's our special teams stud. the bigger question than what to do at LB, cause i think we could be ok, just need more work, is what to do on KICKOFFS?
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"I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh -
My first post of the day.
I was and still am on the Poppinga Bandwagon. I know he got torched. I know they went after him big time.
Stop to think about his the guts he must have to even take the field after that injury - how much pain he must have swallowed to rehab in that amount of time. Bretsky, you, above any here, know what that must have taken.
Yes, I acknowledge he was outmatched, but I for one am glad M3 stuck to him and I 4 one hope he gets a few chances.
If he can get his body to do what his brain wants it to, his heart has shown it can drive, we have a great Sam LB here.
I will not stop loving Popp after an inaugural shitty game. He has shown too much devotion to football, the Ball Club and the Fans to be disregarded in such a manner.Comment
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Good point. I counted AG out after his injury but many other noted that his heart (and body) was really into getting back. My question though.... AG wants to return to greatness; does Poppinga have the stuff to be good in the NFL?Originally posted by Tarlam!The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.Comment
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To bad Sherman couldn't trust his own judgement and keep Hillenmeyer on the team. Why he was cut, I will never know.Originally posted by potsdam_11Brady looked like an average player on a bad defense...
On the brighter side, Sherman's late round drafting prowess is further bolstered, as Hunter Hillenmeyer continues to play well...
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Thanks for your reply Fosco!
Yeah, I think he does. I think he knows his situation is a dream come true. I think he attributes his fortune to a higher being and he feels responsible for working within that framework - Brady poppinga believes in what he is doing.Comment
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As an Iowa fan, I must temper any pull for Hodge. Think back to all those plays you've seen over the years where Barnett covers the rb on a late break out of the backfield. Barnett always seems to be behind the play. Hodge would be ever worse. I'm sorry but Hodge only needs to play if teams are running all over us. The Bears didn't do that. Pop actually plays the run well too. He slices through space and sticks his nose in the play better than ANY lb we currently have. I could see teams wearing Hodge out.Comment
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Poppinga looked lost in coverage, but I don't think it was b/c of a lack of speed or athletic ability. He looked like a young guy who is lacking experience and wasn't really sure of his techniques. He took a couple of bad angles and it cost him and the team.
He needs to be more physical in holding up and disrupting the TE's route in the chuck zone. Beyond that, as he becomes more familiar with his resposibilities in coverage, he should cut down on his mistakes in coverage and take better angles.
Going back and looking at the game, Poppinga was a liability in coverage, but he was just as much of an asset against the run. He and Chicago FB Jason McKie #37 had several epic collisions in hole - most of which Poppinga won. He penetrated effectively, blew up blockers, disengaged well and found the ball. His physical presence up front is absolutely necessary if this defense is going to improve. I have to admit that I was fairly impressed with how physical the Packers front seven was - and Brady Poppinga was a big part of that.
He'll never be an asset in coverage, but I think he can, with more experience and good coaching, at least be adequate. He brings a lot of toughness and physicality to the Packers defense, and they desperately need that.wistComment
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What a joke, wist! All this time you've ripped Barnett when he has good or bad games--rarely giving him any credit. When it's a guy you like (and I don't understand the fascination), you don't judge him honestly. Poppinga played as poorly in coverage as Barnett ever has. It was horrible. Desmond Clark tore him up."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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The fact that any of you would defend this guy after yesterday is mind-boggling to say the least. It's one thing to get beat by Heap or Shockey but when you get beat by the worst TE in the game, you have more problems than just technique.
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If Poppinga is really hopeless in coverage, he'll be replaced in 3 or 4 weeks.
Right now, he's a guy who is bound to be rusty. Didn't play much in preseason, and was on an accelerated rehab schedule prior to that.
Ben Taylor (from what I heard from Jason Wilde on radio) had a lot of trouble against the run in preseason. And Hodge really looked lost in coverage, a big disadvantage even if you could get Barnet to perform at SAM.
The best option right now seems to be to have a little patience with Poppinga. If he shakes off the rust, and rises to a competent level in coverage, he's the best option. I don't trust any of you cock-sure experts who say he can't play the linebacker position - wait and see.Comment
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I will give POOPinga some credit....Lovie smith said 95% of their run plays were designed to run right at "the packers weaker Linebacker" (aka, POOPinga)....not that he made all the plays, but they did only average 3.0 a carry on 36 carries. But, those 36 carries made their play actions killer though against Brady, cause they just threw over top of him."I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny MurraughComment
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OK Blue Hound,,,Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
Ben Taylor plays the run like he plays the pass, average in all respects. He's usually in good position to make a play, but he's not gonna do anything spectacular.
Your adopted son Poppinga actually plays the run better than Taylor. But...... he's lost in coverage. He needs a year of seasoning, film work, and drilling on his cover technique. Right now, he's clueless. I'd say they need to put Taylor in and work Brady into the mix as he gains experience.
Brady will be on the roster next year, Taylor probably won't (a'la Robt Thomas)
Right now, he can't do the job.
I'm cock sure about the whole thing, ya know.Comment
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If Barnett had taken those same bad angles Wist would have been all over him. I'll admit that Poppinga is decent in run support but he was bad in coverage and absolutely terrible at recognizing play action.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersGo PACKComment
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Popinga is TT's pick. Taylor is a stop gap to TT. Popinga starts, period.Originally posted by Partial"Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin FranklinComment
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Where in that post did I say Poppinga played well in coverage??? I'm looking at Poppinga's potential... he's got upside, but as I said, coverage will never be a strength. I'm convinced Poppinga's instincts are light years better than Barnett's... Poppinga will improve, and it's not like they're ever going to ask him to play in the nickel or dime. He is what he is.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
As for your Barnett reference - my initial impressions were that he played a little above averae (didn't study him much though) - which for Barnett, was a very good game.wistComment
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