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  • #46
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    Agreed. But I'd still think its possible they keep the development guy around depending on what M4 and Gute see. Coaches get a little nutty thinking everything can be fixed.
    Boyle doesn’t have the same hesitation that Kizer has. That just kills Kizer. He missed Davis free on a deliberate crossing pattern for example. All he had to do was three steps set and throw. But he held it and got sacked when the RB missed his block. A decent QB can save marginal blocking.

    Boyle has the distinction of never being in a real game. What does he do when the exotics get thrown at him?
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      Gutey traded for this pos

      GM's don't like cutting guys they trade for

      But in Gootie we trust...........or..........................
      Maybe. But M3 might have pushed that harder than the GM alone. McCarthy has to be wondering what he was going to do if Rodgers got hurt again.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #48
        I don't think Kizer has pro level poise. It makes me wonder if that season in CLE really did a number on his head, or if he's always been that skittish in the pocket. Sometimes he looks really good, but I think that's if the play goes according to plan. He's definitely athletic and has a strong arm, but he needs a lot of development.
        Boyle does too, obviously, but I think Boyle doesn't panic as quickly in the pocket and his arm seems good enough...he needs a lot of work to be a pro. Who would you take as your #2 this year: Boyle, Kizer, or Josh McCann? I don't know how GB would survive a 4 game stretch with any of them starting, but I'd lean toward McCann. I have zero faith in Kizer, and Boyle isn't ready.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by run pMc View Post
          I don't think Kizer has pro level poise. It makes me wonder if that season in CLE really did a number on his head, or if he's always been that skittish in the pocket. Sometimes he looks really good, but I think that's if the play goes according to plan. He's definitely athletic and has a strong arm, but he needs a lot of development.
          Boyle does too, obviously, but I think Boyle doesn't panic as quickly in the pocket and his arm seems good enough...he needs a lot of work to be a pro. Who would you take as your #2 this year: Boyle, Kizer, or Josh McCann? I don't know how GB would survive a 4 game stretch with any of them starting, but I'd lean toward McCann. I have zero faith in Kizer, and Boyle isn't ready.
          Even at Notre Dame, Kizer was known to be talented but inconsistent. He left Notre Dame after his junior year which was a mistake. Then Cleveland drafted him and made him their starter, the latter of which was an even bigger mistake. Don't know if he would have developed with better career decisions, but I doubt he's salvageable now.
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          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
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          • #50
            (2) Rodgers Boyle

            (3) Jones Williams Williams

            (1) Vitale

            (4) Graham Lewis Tonyan Sternberger

            (6) Adams MVS Allison Kumerow Davis Lazard (EQ IR)

            (9) Bakh Bulaga Light Taylor Turner Patrick Jenkins Lindsley (Madison makes it but doesn’t play)

            (6) Clark Lowry Adams Lancaster keke Looney

            (4) Gary Smith Smith Fackrell

            (4) Martinez Summers Crawford (Someone not on roster) (burks IR) (Bolton IR)

            (7) Alexander King Williams Brown Hollman Jackson Sullivan

            (4) Amos Savage Greene Redmond



            (3) Crosby Scott Bradley

            Some of my more questionable players.

            Madison. Stenavich says he’s a guy who needs some development but down the road a guy they’ll be really happy they have. Redshirt year.

            Lazard. Blocks, plays all special teams well. Catches. Smart. Big with upside. Shep can’t play STs at all cuz we have Davis. He can’t block. Just not talented enough to be a one dimensional player.

            Pack would love an excuse to put Bolton on IR. They got it. Now they need someone on cut downs to help fill the void till Burks or Bolton comes back.

            Sullivan and Redmond have just played well so they earned it.
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            • #51
              Cut downs will be tough because both Burks and ESB are guys they might want to put in IR for reinstatement. That means they will have to be a part of the original 53 on cut down day. So for instance if they want to put ESB on IR and keep Lazard, they will have to initially cut Lazard, put ESB on IR and then sign Lazard.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #52
                Rob Demovsky

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                The Packers released RB Darrin Hall, who had been claimed off waivers from the Bengals on July 27. GM Brian Gutekunst has been working the phones looking for another back in the trade market, according to league sources. http://espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41074137-4
                They're clearly not comfortable going into the season with either Dexter Williams or Tra Carson as their #3 RB.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  They're clearly not comfortable going into the season with either Dexter Williams or Tra Carson as their #3 RB.
                  Interesting. I thought the running game looked far better than Game 1 even with more backups. They could probably get an old vet at this point off FA, but its going to cost them to get a youngster off a roster before cuts.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Interesting. I thought the running game looked far better than Game 1 even with more backups. They could probably get an old vet at this point off FA, but its going to cost them to get a youngster off a roster before cuts.
                    Yeah, just pick up a vet after cut downs. If Packers are even slightly entertaining the idea of giving up a pick to get a youngster, then I'll know Gute is not up to the job.

                    3rd tailback "concerns" with Rodgers as your QB means we'll survive somehow.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by esoxx View Post
                      Yeah, just pick up a vet after cut downs. If Packers are even slightly entertaining the idea of giving up a pick to get a youngster, then I'll know Gute is not up to the job.

                      3rd tailback "concerns" with Rodgers as your QB means we'll survive somehow.
                      3rd tailback concerns become a bigger concern when your #1 and #2 tailbacks have missed much of training camp and all of the preseason with injuries.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        3rd tailback concerns become a bigger concern when your #1 and #2 tailbacks have missed much of training camp and all of the preseason with injuries.
                        So would you trade a draft pick though? Various players have been dinged and don't play preseason games because, you know, it's preseason.

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                        • #57
                          Somebody said - like it's gospel - the Packers aren't satisfied with Dexter Williams and Tra Carson as possible 3rd string RBs. I find that very hard to believe. Whoever the 3rd RB is will get very little regular game snaps, and both of these guys have been at very least, not horrible in preseason. I really can't see picking up a worn out old RB over them much less giving up a draft pick to do so. If there is any position where lack of experience isn't a problem, RB is it.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by esoxx View Post
                            So would you trade a draft pick though? Various players have been dinged and don't play preseason games because, you know, it's preseason.
                            Maybe they’ll have all the starters rest the whole regular season too, to keep em healthy for the playoffs.
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                              Somebody said - like it's gospel - the Packers aren't satisfied with Dexter Williams and Tra Carson as possible 3rd string RBs. I find that very hard to believe. Whoever the 3rd RB is will get very little regular game snaps, and both of these guys have been at very least, not horrible in preseason. I really can't see picking up a worn out old RB over them much less giving up a draft pick to do so. If there is any position where lack of experience isn't a problem, RB is it.
                              As I mentioned earlier in this thread, it wouldn't be a big deal if Jones and J. Williams could be counted on physically. But they are hurt a lot. Vitale is hurt also. MLF has made clear his frustrations with D. Williams' lack of consistency, while acknowledging his talent. Carson has been more consistent, but is less talented. I don't know if Gutey will make a move or not. Might depend on the health of Jones and D.Williams when we get to next weekend.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #60
                                The Green Bay Packers are finally adding reinforcements at inside linebacker. According to Field Yates of ESPN, the team claimed linebacker Nicholas Grigsy off of waivers from the Baltimore Ravens.

                                Grigsby, 27, was released by the Ravens on Friday. The former undrafted free agent out of Ohio has played in 23 regular season games, including nine with the New England Patriots and three with the Detroit Lions last season.

                                The 6-2, 230-pound linebacker has 15 career tackles.

                                The Packers are decimated at inside linebacker. Oren Burks is dealing with a pectoral muscle injury, while rookie Curtis Bolton departed last Thursday night’s game against the Oakland Raiders with a knee injury.
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                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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