Official 2019 Training Camp Thread

[RashanGary]

Don't tell me that the Preseason Games are meaningless. Every play, by every player at every position could mean the difference in making the Packer's Special Teams or Practice Squad. It helps determine who will be the backups for OL and DL positions as well as backups for WR, RB, and CB positions.
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I agree. I enjoy TC and preseason too. I like seeing the roster come together. Surprises every year.

[mraynrand]

I agree. I enjoy TC and preseason too. I like seeing the roster come together. Surprises every year.

I always watch closely into the fourth quarters of preseason games because I want to know the guys starting for the Packers in November.

[RashanGary]

I always watch closely into the fourth quarters of preseason games because I want to know the guys starting for the Packers in November.

Exactly. It’s a fun time. I’m lucky to get to go to practices. It’s very similar. The Shepherd guy, WR, is solid.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Exactly. It’s a fun time. I’m lucky to get to go to practices. It’s very similar. The Shepherd guy, WR, is solid.

Rand was reeking sarcasm about watching the 4th quarter of the exhibition games, I'm sure.

In the next CBA, I hope they replace 2 preseason games with 2 regular season games for a 20-games season.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Most of us can list the most probable starters on the Packers Offense and Defense. That is essentially 22 players. With (P) Scott and (K) Crosby and (LS) Bradley that's 25 players. Rodgers backup Kizer makes it 26 players. I see Jamaal Williams (RB) and Dan Vitale (FB) also being on the full roster and that makes it now 28 safe players. Marcedes Lewis (TE), Rashan Gary (ROLB), and Tyler Lancaster (NT) are most likely safe along with Kyler Fackrell (LOLB). that makes a total of 32 players. Trevor Davis looks fairly safe as the Punt/Kick returner and he makes the total 33 players.

With 90 players in TC competing to fill 53 slots, and 33 players are most likely "safe", that would leave 57 players fighting for the remaining 20 slots.

Don't tell me that the Preseason Games are meaningless. Every play, by every player at every position could mean the difference in making the Packer's Special Teams or Practice Squad. It helps determine who will be the backups for OL and DL positions as well as backups for WR, RB, and CB positions.

What players have a better chance of making the final roster and who are in TC just to push the others to work harder?

Hopefully safety Mike Tyson makes the team. Packers could use a little knockout toughness.

[mraynrand]

Rand was reeking sarcasm about watching the 4th quarter of the exhibition games, I'm sure.

In the next CBA, I hope they replace 2 preseason games with 2 regular season games for a 20-games season.

The sarcasm was directed at the constant injuries. But I still watch all the games; there are some interesting lower/bottom of the roster decisions that are made based on the performances. Given the abuse to bodies that takes place, I'm in favor of going back to a 14 game schedule with 2 preseason games. Or 1 preseason game and a couple of byes. $$$$$ says it will never happen.

[Radagast]

It is easy to find Depth Charts for NFL Teams. They show the Offense and Defensive squads and their complete player depth. In addition the Kickers, Punters, Long Snappers, and K/P Return specialist are listed. This is fine, but who manned the field on Punts/Kickoffs/and such last season and who should return because of their special teams play this season? Who was GB's "Gunner" last season and is he still around?

I hope to see STs play greatly improve this season and with a few returns for TDs too. Any news from TC on the ST's front? Will Crosby return or is he being beat out this year by a younger player? Who is likely to be GB's "Gunner" this season?

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[RashanGary]

Every team goes through 60+ players in a season. It takes that to win a SB. The unexpected high quality players like Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, David Bakhtiari, MVS, Lane Taylor, Tyler Lancaster add up. I like watching for them.

And obviously one highlight play doesn’t mean shit, but I’ll watch every play of one guy who’s showing up at practice and see how consistent he looks in the games. I’ll combine that with unsolicited praise (example, when asked an open ended question like, “who stood out?”) Lafleur will go out of his way to praise guys like Turner and Trevor Davis and Alex Light. It’s different than if a coach is asked about a specific player and they have to say something decent to the camera.

Actions speak louder than words too. A coach can go out of his way to say, “montravius adams is the most improved player on defense” That is high unsolicited praise. But cutting Daniels says more. Same with cutting Spriggs. I intend to watch Alex Light closely. I think he might be the RT of the future.

There is all sorts of information, and for me, sorting through it and finding truth within the loads of bullshit is fun. It’s a dork ass thing to enjoy, but I do.

On a completely different note, I’m excited to see Rashan Gary! I have a warm spot in my heart for vicious, violent, injury causing defense.

[Radagast]

I once viewed a Documentary called,"4th and Goal". It followed the football lives of 4 young men and from High School to College and to Pro Football. It showed how hard each worked and their dedication as football players. How the support of their families was very important. The sacrifices they made to be the best they could be. Throughout the film it was emphasised just how few ever make it into the NFL out of all the College players to choose from each year. Of the 4 young men in the video, only one made it to the NFL and he won a SB playing CB for the Patriots.

NFL football may well be the toughest sport of all to get to play on the national level. It takes speed, strength, mental toughness, agility, and great self discipline to reach an NFL roster. As fans we criticise players who fail to live up to expectations, I say that when you have to face the best of the best each week and hold off rookies vying for your job too, then anyone that makes it to an NFL TC HAS earned my respect.

[pbmax]

Rand was reeking sarcasm about watching the 4th quarter of the exhibition games, I'm sure.

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I think its a case of joking but not by much.

[call_me_ishmael]

Tonight we start the quest to the super bowl. I am very bullish on the squad this year. Super bowl or bust baby, what it do!!

[swede]

I always watch closely into the fourth quarters of preseason games because I want to know the guys starting for the Packers in November.

Seriously, there are a lot of fans who would like to watch the 4th quarter of a pre-season game for the reason you half- jestingly suggest. Unfortunately this is when they tend to bring out some Henry Cheesely, Lambeau Field Hospitality Coordinator, for a riveting on-screen interview while the game plays in the background—grrr

It’s the football television production version of having your extended family over on game day, with relatives telling you about their hip replacement while you are trying to see if the defense is in cover one or cover two.

[Radagast]

By now most fully realise that preseason "games" are really an extension of practice. A schrimage with another team puts players in a more competitive situation and gives the Coaches a chance to evaluate players under real game conditions. Who actually wins is secondary to play execution, footwork, blocking, route running, pass coverage, etc.

The tickets sold do provide revenue, but it's the TV revenue that tops the rest. Empty seats, while disappointing for some teams, is soothed by those TV revenues.

We certainly want to see our team win all their games, but learning what needs fixing and who did/did not show well defending the run or blocking in the R.Offensive Guard position on passing plays is the more immediate concern. Who played well on Special Teams or screwed up in pass coverage and gave up a big gain or score.

Believing that preseason games are real games is folly and correcting that folly will make it easier to view the preseason exhibition practice schrimages for what they are.

[ThunderDan]

The tickets sold do provide revenue, but it's the TV revenue that tops the rest. Empty seats, while disappointing for some teams, is soothed by those TV revenues.

You do know that most teams sell out all of their games right??? There are the handful you hear about that can't sell out but the vast majority do. The people might not go to the game but the ticket is sold.

[mraynrand]

Believing that preseason games are real games is folly and correcting that folly ...

Not one person here, or anyone who knows even the minimum about the game believes that preseason games are 'real' games. There is no 'folly' to correct. Unless you want to 'correct' fans under the age of 6.