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  • Getting ahead of the 2020 salary cap

    Clark is a 23 year old, dominant and still ascending player. I would lock him up to a big deal now, before that big deal turns into something we can hardly afford.

    Lowry is a solid, ascending player. I’d lock him up to a moderate deal now before he gets the ridiculous UFA offers.

    Martinez is a solid, Hawk type player with potential to look better than he really is in 2019 because of the guys who play in front of him. He’s also our only decent ILB. I’d lock him up to a solid deal now before UFA makes it a joke.

    Geronimo Allison - Id lock him up to a solid deal too. He’s got chemistry with Rodgers and is a natural fit inside at slot receiver. The benefit of drafting guys is you get a slight discount if you get them just before UFA.

    Graham, Tramon, Bulaga and Daniels can all be let go next year. I’d strongly consider Daniels though if the price was right. Justin Houston just got 2 years 24 million. So maybe Daniels could be had for like 2/20 or something. Or maybe none of our OT prospects show any promise. Maybe we’d be pressured to resign Bulaga. But the older guys, I’d risk UFA on.

    We also have to start thinking about Hollywood Rodgers next blockbuster deal. He should get paid like a player and play caller and coach because he runs the show.
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    I predict Bulaga will not make it through the season. I predict he'll miss at least 8 full games this year. Will not be re-signed.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      I predict Bulaga will not make it through the season. I predict he'll miss at least 8 full games this year. Will not be re-signed.
      He took a bad step on the stairs just while reading this.
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      • #4
        ^^^ I have a relative who claimed he saw Bulaga injure himself getting ice cream in Crystal Lake.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
          Clark is a 23 year old, dominant and still ascending player. I would lock him up to a big deal now, before that big deal turns into something we can hardly afford.

          Lowry is a solid, ascending player. I’d lock him up to a moderate deal now before he gets the ridiculous UFA offers.

          Martinez is a solid, Hawk type player with potential to look better than he really is in 2019 because of the guys who play in front of him. He’s also our only decent ILB. I’d lock him up to a solid deal now before UFA makes it a joke.

          Geronimo Allison - Id lock him up to a solid deal too. He’s got chemistry with Rodgers and is a natural fit inside at slot receiver. The benefit of drafting guys is you get a slight discount if you get them just before UFA.

          Graham, Tramon, Bulaga and Daniels can all be let go next year. I’d strongly consider Daniels though if the price was right. Justin Houston just got 2 years 24 million. So maybe Daniels could be had for like 2/20 or something. Or maybe none of our OT prospects show any promise. Maybe we’d be pressured to resign Bulaga. But the older guys, I’d risk UFA on.

          We also have to start thinking about Hollywood Rodgers next blockbuster deal. He should get paid like a player and play caller and coach because he runs the show.
          Interesting thread. Haven't gone and looked at the 2020 free agents yet, here is the Spotrac list:

          Mike Daniels DE 31 UFA
          Bryan Bulaga RT 31 UFA
          Tramon Williams CB 37 UFA
          Mason Crosby K 35 UFA
          Geronimo Allison WR 26 UFA
          Marcedes Lewis TE 36 UFA
          Jason Spriggs T 26 UFA
          Kyler Fackrell OLB 28 UFA
          Dean Lowry DE 26 UFA
          Blake Martinez ILB 26 UFA
          Trevor Davis WR 27 UFA

          Lucas Patrick G 27 RFA
          Justin McCray G 28 RFA
          Adam Pankey T 26 RFA
          Michael Tyson CB 27 RFA

          Jake Kumerow WR 28 ERFA
          Reggie Gilbert DE 27 ERFA
          Fadol Brown DE 27 ERFA
          Robert Tonyan Jr. TE 26 ERFA
          Tyler Lancaster DT 25 ERFA
          Tra Carson RB 27 ERFA
          Tony Brown CB 24 ERFA
          James Looney DT 25 ERFA
          Jawill Davis WR 25 ERFA
          Kendall Donnerson OLB 24 ERFA
          Will Redmond CB 26 ERFA
          Allen Lazard WR 24 ERFA
          Evan Baylis TE 26 ERFA
          Anthony Coyle G 23 ERFA
          Gerhard de Beer T 26 ERFA
          Tray Matthews S 25 ERFA
          Teo Redding WR 25 ERFA
          Brady Sheldon OLB 27 ERFA
          Sam Ficken K 27 ERFA

          Pretty much agree with what you proposed. Clark does not show here but I think it is because of the fifth year option. Yes to Lowry and Martinez. Fackrell, Allison and Spriggs depends on this year's contribution. I like Crosby but I think he can be replaced for a cost savings if needed.

          RFAs will have to make a jump or they are out.

          This is an impressively long list of ERFAs. Jake Kumerow is going to retire at 45 and still be an ERFA . Like Tony Brown as a breakout candidate, he has all the talent but needs an attitude adjustment, no bad penalties!! Lancaster, Tonyan, Donnerson, Brown, Gilbert, and maybe others could be kept.

          And of course rooting for the Alien Lizard (Allen Lazard); but he need to impress in preseason or he won't be around.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by wthigoot View Post
            Interesting thread. Haven't gone and looked at the 2020 free agents yet, here is the Spotrac list:

            Mike Daniels DE 31 UFA
            Bryan Bulaga RT 31 UFA
            Tramon Williams CB 37 UFA
            Mason Crosby K 35 UFA
            Geronimo Allison WR 26 UFA
            Marcedes Lewis TE 36 UFA
            Jason Spriggs T 26 UFA
            Kyler Fackrell OLB 28 UFA
            Dean Lowry DE 26 UFA
            Blake Martinez ILB 26 UFA
            Trevor Davis WR 27 UFA
            .
            How the hell is Crosby only 35? Dude looks like he is 45-50. Maybe they mean he has been in the league for 35 years
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            • #7
              Mike Daniels DE 31 UFA
              Bryan Bulaga RT 31 UFA
              Tramon Williams CB 37 UFA
              Mason Crosby K 35 UFA
              Geronimo Allison WR 26 UFA
              Marcedes Lewis TE 36 UFA
              Jason Spriggs T 26 UFA
              Kyler Fackrell OLB 28 UFA
              Dean Lowry DE 26 UFA
              Blake Martinez ILB 26 UFA
              Trevor Davis WR 27 UFA
              Hope everybody enjoyed Gutey going outside for UFA'a this year, because 2020 will be about re-signing some of our own guys.

              Blake Martinez, Dean Lowry, Geronimo Allison and either Bulaga or Spriggs should be the primary targets. Trevor Davis and Kyler Fackrell the secondary targets.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Hope everybody enjoyed Gutey going outside for UFA'a this year, because 2020 will be about re-signing some of our own guys.

                Blake Martinez, Dean Lowry, Geronimo Allison and either Bulaga or Spriggs should be the primary targets. Trevor Davis and Kyler Fackrell the secondary targets.
                Martinez, Lowry and Allison, yes. Maybe on Crosby. Fackrell is probably the only other one worth considering. Bulaga can't stay on the field enough. Spriggs hasn't shown anything, Davis my not even be on the team.

                Unless Martinez has a tremendous year, I don't see any of them being much of a budget buster. If they spend their money on their own players, it will likely be for extending those on their last year.
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                • #9
                  Somebody must be doing something right in the Packers front office for them to have this good a situation - virtually no really high priority players coming up for re-signing, only Martinez that I can see on that list, and he isn't even all that special.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                    Somebody must be doing something right in the Packers front office for them to have this good a situation - virtually no really high priority players coming up for re-signing, only Martinez that I can see on that list, and he isn't even all that special.
                    Mostly it means that the 2016 draft was serviceable at best, but the remaining players from rounds 2-7 are not worth throwing big bucks at. Not as bad as this off season where there was nobody left from the 2015 draft to even consider offering any contract to.
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                    • #11
                      If Bulaga re-signs, has to be a short term deal.
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                      • #12
                        I have a tough time seeing Bulaga back, unless he gets injured and they sign him on a prove it deal, or sign him with the understanding that he's a backup. I think the plan is for Turner to eventually get the first shot there, and draft someone next year. I know it's tough to find good OT's, but GB's depth is not great IMO.

                        Hard to imagine the Bulaga signs as a backup given he's making $8M or whatever now and he won't sniff that here. I could see some other team overpaying for 1-2 years of him before he's done, a la Lang, Rivera, etc.

                        I get that people are down on Crosby because he blew it vs. Detroit last year, but finding a competent kicker who can survive outside at Lambeau is not simple. Ask the Vikings and Bears how their K search has gone. That said, they need to bring in competition, and keep looking for a replacement.

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                        • #13
                          Bryan Bulaga will enter his 10th NFL season this year. He has delivered exceptional service at Right Tackle in spite of the injuries that he has suffered and overcome. His strength and experience make him my #1 choice to start at RT again this season. Also, I believe that the same can be said for David Bakhtiari at Left Tackle.

                          Having a player ready to step in at LT or RT at a moments notice is only standard operating procedure. Is Jason Spriggs that player or is Justin McCray that player. I believe that Billy Turner was hired to play the Guard position, but would he move to play at the Tackle position if called upon? Who is the #1 backup Tackle for the 2019 GB Packers?

                          As for salaries, that is a management problem and they seem to be handling it just fine.


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Radagast View Post
                            Bryan Bulaga will enter his 10th NFL season this year. He has delivered exceptional service at Right Tackle in spite of the injuries that he has suffered and overcome. His strength and experience make him my #1 choice to start at RT again this season. Also, I believe that the same can be said for David Bakhtiari at Left Tackle.

                            Having a player ready to step in at LT or RT at a moments notice is only standard operating procedure. Is Jason Spriggs that player or is Justin McCray that player. I believe that Billy Turner was hired to play the Guard position, but would he move to play at the Tackle position if called upon? Who is the #1 backup Tackle for the 2019 GB Packers?

                            As for salaries, that is a management problem and they seem to be handling it just fine.







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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                              You don't set the exceptional service bar very high, do you?
                              Hold on there partner, you use a left handed remark to put down Bulaga without backing it up ! If you don't like him say so, but you should also say why. Additionally, you could also say what you would like to see change at RT and who/how it would be accomplished.

                              GB knows that players get hurt or get traded or leave as a FA or retire. For that reason they always are grooming players to step up to the starting slot. GB currently has players that can fill in if Bulaga goes down again. I believe that the position was not a high priority in the last draft, but it may well be in the next one. If only to give the Tackle that they look to draft at least a season to get ready to take over at RT. After that. Bulaga may stay on as a backup or finish his career with another team as Jeff Saturday, Frank Winters and others have in the past.

                              As i said before, salary matters are the responsibility of management and they are doing ok as far as I'm concerned.


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