RANDOM MUSINGS FROM TRANING CAMP...WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD...THE GOOD AND THE BAD

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Sam Ficken may beat out Mason Crosby and save the team 3 million, but Crosby has high pressure experience and as long as he can do his job well he deserves to collect on his years of good service. In addition, he can stand as an example to the team of what hard work and loyalty can earn. If Ficken is as good as advertised, then he should have no problem getting on with a team that needs a good kicker.

The Dallas playoff game was 4 scores and 7 years ago. Crosby hasn’t been clutch since. Cost Pack plenty of games in the clutch the last couple of seasons. Plus, Crosby can no longer kick the rock into the deep end zone.

Time to move on from Crosby.

Loyalty means fuck in the NFL. Just ask Favre, Nelson, Sitton and Daniels.

[Radagast]

The Dallas playoff game was 4 scores and 7 years ago. Crosby hasn’t been clutch since. Cost Pack plenty of games in the clutch the last couple of seasons. Plus, Crosby can no longer kick the rock into the deep end zone.

Time to move on from Crosby.

Loyalty means fuck in the NFL. Just ask Favre, Nelson, Sitton and Daniels.

Your opinion is as valid as any. As for me I discount a post that comes from a poster that uses a magazine cover from the same magazine that once had Adolph Hitler on their cover as their avatar.

[texaspackerbacker]

APB, CMI, and me all in agreement hahahahahaha?

I also would like to see Crosby replaced. I'm not sure Ficken is good enough, though.

[Patler]

The Dallas playoff game was 4 scores and 7 years ago. Crosby hasn’t been clutch since. Cost Pack plenty of games in the clutch the last couple of seasons. Plus, Crosby can no longer kick the rock into the deep end zone.

Time to move on from Crosby.

Loyalty means fuck in the NFL. Just ask Favre, Nelson, Sitton and Daniels.

My opinion regarding Crosby has nothing to do with loyalty, it's performance. The thing Crosby has going for him is his head. He seems to not not let things get to him. After his "0-for" against Detroit, he was perfect the next week, including a 51 yarder, a game-tieing extra point with under 2 minutes remaining, and the game winner as the clock expired. He didn't let the worst game of his career stop him from being perfect the next week and making a game winning kick to boot.


Fricken made practice kicks and missed two game situation kicks. That's not going to get the job away from Crosby without Crosby showing significant decline.

[pbmax]

My opinion regarding Crosby has nothing to do with loyalty, it's performance. The thing Crosby has going for him is his head. He seems to not not let things get to him. After his "0-for" against Detroit, he was perfect the next week, including a 51 yarder, a game-tieing extra point with under 2 minutes remaining, and the game winner as the clock expired. He didn't let the worst game of his career stop him from being perfect the next week and making a game winning kick to boot.


Fricken made practice kicks and missed two game situation kicks. That's not going to get the job away from Crosby without Crosby showing significant decline.

No, Patler, I am sure you are mistaken

Tank would never make an assertion ("Cost Pack plenty of games in the clutch the last couple of seasons") without actual data to back it up.

Would you APB?

Share that data with us.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

No, Patler, I am sure you are mistaken

Tank would never make an assertion ("Cost Pack plenty of games in the clutch the last couple of seasons") without actual data to back it up.

Would you APB?

Share that data with us.

What am I, a masochist? I’ve been trying to erase the past 2 seasons from my head, and therefore do not wish to review the seasons.

I’ll say this, though: Crosby made 79% of his kicks in 17 and 81% in 18. Subpar. And the last time McCarthy coached the Packers, Crosby’s miss as time ran out was the blade that decapitated McCarthy.

Plenty of kickers on the streets of Baltimore, including Younghoe Koo (I support NFL oddity), are more than capable of hitting 81% of their kicks...for way less frogskins than what the Packers are paying Crosby.

[call_me_ishmael]

Hasn't Crosby regressed to basically a below average kicker, though? The numbers support that (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...t/fieldGoalPct), but I didn't dive into them in great detail to figure out success on shorter kicks vs longer kicks, etc. I am going purely off a (potentially misleading) aggregated average.

[Joemailman]

He had 1 horrible game against Detroit last year. Other than that game, he was 29-32 on Fg's. He was 5-7 from 50+, so he still has leg strength. Had a rookie snapper and holder. I'd give him another chance.

[call_me_ishmael]

He had 1 horrible game against Detroit last year. Other than that game, he was 29-32 on Fg's. He was 5-7 from 50+, so he still has leg strength. Had a rookie snapper and holder. I'd give him another chance.

That seems reasonable. Good post.

[pbmax]

Hasn't Crosby regressed to basically a below average kicker, though? The numbers support that (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...t/fieldGoalPct), but I didn't dive into them in great detail to figure out success on shorter kicks vs longer kicks, etc. I am going purely off a (potentially misleading) aggregated average.

He had 1 horrible game against Detroit last year. Other than that game, he was 29-32 on Fg's. He was 5-7 from 50+, so he still has leg strength. Had a rookie snapper and holder. I'd give him another chance.

I think he has become closer to average than top echelon overall, yes. But Joe is right he was handicapped last year, especially with the long snapper being very inconsistent.

However, even if another year doesn't get the operation past above average, there is no reason to be upset about average in this area with someone who cannot be iced or pressured. That plus his ability to deal with an ever changing Lambeau tundra is a pretty nice feature.

[pbmax]

You see, if you move on from average, you get things like this:

@ProFootballTalk
Bears refuse to name a starting kicker on official depth chart

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1158740920361201665

Meanwhile Robbie Gould just signed a multi-year deal elsewhere.

[Patler]

I think he has become closer to average than top echelon overall, yes. But Joe is right he was handicapped last year, especially with the long snapper being very inconsistent.

However, even if another year doesn't get the operation past above average, there is no reason to be upset about average in this area with someone who cannot be iced or pressured. That plus his ability to deal with an ever changing Lambeau tundra is a pretty nice feature.

I don't understand why no one was brought in to challenge Hunter Bradley. I gave particularly close attention to watching his snaps after the FG fiasco against Detroit. Bradley was very erratic. Didn't have a horrible snap, but Scott was continually have to adjust for inaccurate snaps on punts and placekicks. Media types thought Triner was the better snapper in camp last year, but Gute kept his draft pick instead. I hope Bradley justifies that decision this year.

[RashanGary]

Danny Vitale showing WR type athleticism, route running and catching skills. Rodgers says, “he’s gonna make the team”
Tra Carson showing up as an all around back
Rashan Gary destroying OTs and OGs in one on ones
Z destroying OL
OL playing really well according to Lafleur. 1st 2nd and 3rd team
Rodgers loving the scheme and looking forward to pushing it
Lafleur pushing pace, something I’ve been complaining about since Favre left
Tonyan playing well
Hollman playing well
Crazy Tony Brown might make the team

[RashanGary]

Nothing drives me nuts quite like endless tinkering at the line and slow pace offense. Yuck!!! Shove it so far down their throat, they choke on it. Line up and let your OL tee the fuck off. Play football, not chess. Mix in a little bit of tinkering here and there when it’s ideal or absolutely needed, but a strong pace makes up for and surpasses a slightly less than ideal play call because it keeps the big guys tuned into aggression and violence.

[esoxx]

Nothing drives me nuts quite like endless tinkering at the line and slow pace offense. Yuck!!! Shove it so far down their throat, they choke on it. Line up and let your OL tee the fuck off. Play football, not chess. Mix in a little bit of tinkering here and there when it’s ideal or absolutely needed, but a strong pace makes up for and surpasses a slightly less than ideal play call because it keeps the big guys tuned into aggression and violence.

Completely agree with this. Watching Forehead Manning work his Tourette Syndrome routine at the line prior to the snap was nails on the chalkboard to me. Could barely watch a Colts or Broncos game with the constant histrionics. Great QB yes, fun to watch no.