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  • I would like to know which way they are trending. With the implementation of the new scheme did they start at this level or are they growing into the scheme? I don't really remember hearing about oline scheme changes, but I'm certain some of the calls have changed.
    I guess my point is I'm looking for reasons to believe they will get better as a group.
    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

    George Orwell

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    • LEEROY Jenkins is not pleased with this ranking.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
        I would like to know which way they are trending. With the implementation of the new scheme did they start at this level or are they growing into the scheme? I don't really remember hearing about oline scheme changes, but I'm certain some of the calls have changed.
        I guess my point is I'm looking for reasons to believe they will get better as a group.
        I think there was some question as to whether they could adapt to the outside zone run blocking scheme; I think that was a legitimate concern, as this team struggles mightily to run outside. I think The Flower has adapted by running more inside zone, which I believe requires less mobility from the tackles.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
          I would like to know which way they are trending. With the implementation of the new scheme did they start at this level or are they growing into the scheme? I don't really remember hearing about oline scheme changes, but I'm certain some of the calls have changed.
          I guess my point is I'm looking for reasons to believe they will get better as a group.
          Overall they’re performing at top 10 level. They’re playing pretty well. There is a lot of bad OL play in the NFL
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • Packers directional run blocking rankings:

            https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2019

            When running at opponents
            left end: 20th
            left tackle: 31st
            nose tackle: 1st
            left tackle: 12th
            right end: 15th
            The top grade when run blocking in middle in my opinion doesn't seem to go along with PFF's ranking of Jenkins, Linsley and Turner as backups.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • I don’t think those individual grades are quite right either. I think the Packers have 5 solid OL. Most teams are worse off.

              Jenkins has potential to be quite a bit more than solid though.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                Pff grades after 10 games

                Bakhtiari 70 (starter)
                Jenkins 65 (backup)
                Linsley 64 (backup)
                Turner 61 (backup)
                Bulaga 73 (starter)

                I do think this is somewhat reasonable. Football outsiders has them as top 10 overall OL. The strength is that there isn’t a glaring weakness. The weakness is that there isn’t really a true strength.
                Interesting. It substantiates McCarren's comment a few weeks ago that Bulaga has been consistently the best performer on the line.

                Unfortunately, it also substantiates my concern from the start of the season that it was a real headscratcher as to why the Packers gave Turner such a big contract. He has been a career backup who none of his previous teams wanted to commit to as a starter.

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                • I suspect Linsley and Jenkins are having better run blocking years than the overall grades indicate. Packers have had a lot of success running inside to the left this year.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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