ILB: Filling the open slot ?

[Radagast]

Since you don't know how long it will take to heal, how can you affirmatively say he needs to be replaced? What if it's just two weeks?

Burks, like Perry and past others, possibly through no fault of their own, are injury prone. Bulaga might fall into this category as well. Burks may well turn out to be a pro-bowler someday, but for now he is constantly getting injuries that keep him off of the football field. I empathise with him, but for me, he's not working out for the Packers. He can't practice or play and even if he were healed by a miracle today, I'd be taking bets on just how long until he got another bad injury. Like I said before, it's not really his fault, but for some players injuries just follow them. Releasing him now will give the other ILB starter want to be's more of a goal to work for.

Were it my decision to make, I'd release Orin Burks and BANISH mraynrand to a 3 mile hole in the ground where no internet was possible.

[mraynrand]

Burks, like Perry and past others, possibly through no fault of their own, are injury prone. Bulaga might fall into this category as well.

I think your sample size on Burks is too small right now. Also, I doubt your clairvoyance. Injury-prone claims are at best an inexact science, and at worst fall under the purview of Jean Dixon or Sylvia Browne. Maybe wait a week or two before you cast him off.

Recall Packers like as Steve Atkins, Mark D'Onofrio, John Anderson, Mike Flanagan, Brian Williams.

In any case, even healthy Burks may not be a player.

[wist43]

But wasn't Burks supposed to be the LB with speed and quickness to cover RBs and TEs while also providing a little more bulk than your average converted safety? His loss, it seems to me, will be felt less when facing heavy formations and more against multiple receiver.

Losing Burks will help - he can't play.

The little he played the other night was simply more of what he showed last year and in college... the kid has no instincts for the game of football. None.

[mraynrand]

The little he played the other night was simply more of what he showed last year and in college... the kid has no instincts for the game of football. None.

This is just pure hyperbole. He had about six plays, and was pretty much fine, including making the tackle on the QB where he got hurt. I saw a hesitation on one pass coverage and a slow disengage from a lineman who got on him at the second level. Otherwise he was just fine.

[wist43]

This is just pure hyperbole. He had about six plays, and was pretty much fine, including making the tackle on the QB where he got hurt. I saw a hesitation on one pass coverage and a slow disengage from a lineman who got on him at the second level. Otherwise he was just fine.

No, he was doing the same things in his limited playing time the other night that he had been doing in college.

Bad angles, poor diagnosis, poor awareness. Have you ever heard of coaches trying to get a player to work on his "eyes"??

Don't know what to tell you beyond the fact that he looks the part physically and athletically, but he's just not a football player.

[mraynrand]

No, he was doing the same things in his limited playing time the other night that he had been doing in college.

Bad angles, poor diagnosis, poor awareness. Have you ever heard of coaches trying to get a player to work on his "eyes"??

Don't know what to tell you beyond the fact that he looks the part physically and athletically, but he's just not a football player.

In six plays, all I saw was him leap early on the TE, but then he recovered for pretty decent coverage. Also, he let a lineman get his hands on him too long. You must have been watching something else.

[Radagast]

wist43, it reads to me like you have also been "mooned" by the WV moron. If you were to figuratively take mraynrand down to the whipping post for a workout, I'm quite sure that I and others would enjoy seeing the dink get neutered. From what I've read and heard about you, your highly qualified for such a mission and would leave few scraps behind.

I might attempt it myself, but I know when to leave the stage and let the star have the full spotlight. I will also understand if you have no interest in besting a fool.

[mraynrand]

wist43, it reads to me like you have also been "mooned" by the WV moron. If you were to figuratively take mraynrand down to the whipping post for a workout, I'm quite sure that I and others would enjoy seeing the dink get neutered. From what I've read and heard about you, your highly qualified for such a mission and would leave few scraps behind.

I might attempt it myself, but I know when to leave the stage and let the star have the full spotlight. I will also understand if you have no interest in besting a fool.

You could try answering my challenge instead of engaging in cheap personal attacks. It’s possible you can defend your perspective.

[hoosier]

Problem with the Meadow: never there when you need it.

[Carolina_Packer]

Well, you know what they say: Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.

It's a Wistery, or at the very least Wisterious. It's leaving me feeling Wistful.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Problem with the Meadow: never there when you need it.

That's because skin got it banished to the Garbage Can.

[wist43]

wist43, it reads to me like you have also been "mooned" by the WV moron. If you were to figuratively take mraynrand down to the whipping post for a workout, I'm quite sure that I and others would enjoy seeing the dink get neutered. From what I've read and heard about you, your highly qualified for such a mission and would leave few scraps behind.

I might attempt it myself, but I know when to leave the stage and let the star have the full spotlight. I will also understand if you have no interest in besting a fool.

You could try answering my challenge instead of engaging in cheap personal attacks. It’s possible you can defend your perspective.

No idea what u guys are on about. After school. Playground. Single shot pistols (the old patch and ball type) 20 paces??

[wist43]

In six plays, all I saw was him leap early on the TE, but then he recovered for pretty decent coverage. Also, he let a lineman get his hands on him too long. You must have been watching something else.

The "oh shit" coverage he didn't have on that TE is the best example. He didn't recover - he was beat.

On that play he had two responsibilities 1) cover the TE if it's a pass 2) shed the TE, leverage the RB inside, and make the tackle or ensure that the RB is funneled to his teammates if it's a run.

He accomplished none of that b/c he didn't know what was going on, and he didn't carry out his assignment.

Before he knows if it's run or pass, he needs to engage that TE, and control him within the 5 yd chuck zone. While engaged, that is when he needs to make his run/pass read. If he holds the TE up, and it is a pass, he has disrupted the route, thrown the timing off, and put himself in tight coverage to either bat the ball down, or force the QB to look for a better option.

If it is a run - he needs to fulfill his responsibility to leverage the RB inside, and go from there.

As it was, Burks never engaged the TE, he simply looked into the backfield as the TE ran past him, until the "oh shit" moment dawned on him, and then he turned and chased - already beaten. Easy completion.

[mraynrand]

The "oh shit" coverage he didn't have on that TE is the best example. He didn't recover - he was beat.

On that play he had two responsibilities 1) cover the TE if it's a pass 2) shed the TE, leverage the RB inside, and make the tackle or ensure that the RB is funneled to his teammates if it's a run.

weird, because that's exactly what he did, but he was a little slow getting into the pattern with the TE because he was making the read prepping to 'leverage' the RB inside. He was right there on a good pass.

Plus, this was one of six plays, and was the negative play. The rest were fine, including the tackle of the QB where he got hurt.

[mraynrand]

No idea what u guys are on about.

this was my comment

I think your sample size on Burks is too small right now. Also, I doubt your clairvoyance. Injury-prone claims are at best an inexact science, and at worst fall under the purview of Jean Dixon or Sylvia Browne. Maybe wait a week or two before you cast him off.

Recall Packers like as Steve Atkins, Mark D'Onofrio, John Anderson, Mike Flanagan, Brian Williams.

In any case, even healthy Burks may not be a player.