Official Packers vs. Ravens Game Day Thread

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Until now I did not want to believe that LaFleur and Rodgers were feuding, however when you add up the audible story, with the comment about not liking practice with the Texans, and now conveniently developing a "back tightness" issue has me questioning Rodgers commitment to the TEAM. Is he butting heads with LaFleur or not willing to risk injury in a scrimmage game? At any rate, Rodgers is not projecting the image I look for in an elite NFL QB.

The good money is that each is staking out turf. What they HAVE to have to operate. PeterKing and the Ringer's Robert Mays each did a post this week, looking at the audible thing from their visit last week.

Matt Ryan made it into the piece, saying that he too worked with LaFleur, McVay and Shanny Jr. to put in the plays he had to have to operate. And they had a record breaking season on offense.

So its a negotiation. And LaFleur has picked up his game in public comments this last week, still giving room for his QB to get some of what he wants but also being clear its got to be his offense.

I think its much ado about business as usual. My greater concern is whether it will actually work given the parts that M4 has in place.

https://sports.nbcsports.com/2019/08/12/aaron-rodgers-new-packers-coach-matt-lafleur-learning-to-work-together/

https://www.theringer.com/nfl-preview/2019/8/13/20802817/green-bay-packers-matt-lafleur-aaron-rodgers-prime

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I saw AR stretching his back on the sideline. I’m buying the back tightness.

Well, you know, I cough into the phone when I call in sick Justin. Some things are just common courtesy.

[Bretsky]

I never changed my mind on Burns, I still preferred him over Gary right along... the only thing that changed WRT my view of Gary was that he could be a player.

I had originally written him off b/c of his lack of production and injury history, but he did show up on tape.

That said, another thing that showed on tape from his college days was that jogging thing - WTF is that?? Complete lack of hustle and urgency. Very, very bad look.

I'm very skeptical of him again.

Fritz and I have a nicely padded VIP seat ready for you on the Sherry Gary Bus , but you only get VIP status if you flip now

[call_me_ishmael]

Why don't we give the kid a few weeks before we crown him.

He has flashed consistently in practice. That's a good sign.

He works hard and is in ZSmith's ear constantly trying to get better. That's a good sign.

It is WAY TOO EARLY to start the bust talk. By that logic, you fools would be hatin' on year one and year two Jadeveon Clowney, who is the most physically talented edge player in the league and is close to putting it all together.

[Bretsky]

Why don't we give the kid a few weeks before we crown him.

He has flashed consistently in practice. That's a good sign.

He works hard and is in ZSmith's ear constantly trying to get better. That's a good sign.

It is WAY TOO EARLY to start the bust talk. By that logic, you fools would be hatin' on year one and year two Jadeveon Clowney, who is the most physically talented edge player in the league and is close to putting it all together.

To be fair I liked Clowney right out of college; he was way too elite to fail.

Plenty of history in Michigan to already believe he's Tarzan playing like Jane.

I hope he becomes a Tarzan for GB though

[call_me_ishmael]

To be fair I liked Clowney right out of college; he was way too elite to fail.

Plenty of history in Michigan to already believe he's Tarzan playing like Jane.

Look up Clowney's junior year at SC then. Many thought he was mailing it in to get to the pros. His sack numbers were actually worse than Gary's, but he did have almost 2x the tackles for loss. He was too elite to fail. Gary works hard by all accounts, and is basically an equal athlete to Clowney. Is he also too elite to fail?

My take on it is give the kid some time. My belief is the youth has a very high floor which is basically a better-than-solid starter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadeveon_Clowney#2013_season

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/rashan-gary-1.html

[mraynrand]

This is Packerrats. It’s never too early to forecast failure and disaster. I predict the entire 2020 draft will be a debacle.

[Bretsky]

Look up Clowney's junior year at SC then. Many thought he was mailing it in to get to the pros. His sack numbers were actually worse than Gary's, but he did have almost 2x the tackles for loss. He was too elite to fail. Gary works hard by all accounts, and is basically an equal athlete to Clowney. Is he also too elite to fail?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadeveon_Clowney#2013_season

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...an-gary-1.html

Other than the media pimping him a couple times, I'm not a buyer of this yet. Need to see it in games

[Bretsky]

This is Packerrats. It’s never too early to forecast failure and disaster. I predict the entire 2020 draft will be a debacle.

My sarcastic counter. This is Packerrats; everything should be fluffy roses until the players switch teams. Then they suck

[mraynrand]

Other than the media pimping him a couple times, I'm not a buyer of this yet. Need to see it in games

I agree. Hopefully Gary is just dogging it because after all, it’s preseason.

[mraynrand]

Well, you know, I cough into the phone when I call in sick Justin. Some things are just common courtesy.

I can’t seem to find anything wrong with you, Mr. Babar.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Look up Clowney's junior year at SC then. Many thought he was mailing it in to get to the pros. His sack numbers were actually worse than Gary's, but he did have almost 2x the tackles for loss. He was too elite to fail. Gary works hard by all accounts, and is basically an equal athlete to Clowney. Is he also too elite to fail?

My take on it is give the kid some time. My belief is the youth has a very high floor which is basically a better-than-solid starter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadeveon_Clowney#2013_season

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...an-gary-1.html

Vincent Smith would like to disagree with your mailing it in statement.

[wist43]

I can’t seem to find anything wrong with you, Mr. Babar.

Is that with 2 B's??

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@BillHuberSI
Why you have to look beyond the box score: Tra Carson had six carries for 9 yards, a pitiful 1.5-yard average. By my count, though, he had 18 yards after contact.

FIRE THE O LINE COACH! STEPANOVICH OR STEVOVICH OR STEINWICZ OR STEINWAY

[call_me_ishmael]

I believe there is a good chance that an ILB not currently on the roster will be getting lots of playing time come September.

Josh Jones traded for a 2-3 year player who has a lot of physical talent but hasn't yet lived up to the hype at MLB. That's what I predict.