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  • #46
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    He has more snaps under center in recent history than Bridgewater.
    so what?
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • #47
      Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
      No, the saints don't agree with me. They got the chance to get a former pro bowl QB for a nice deal and possibly have a future after Brees calls it quits and they signed him. They also haven't officially announced who the backup is at this point THIS season.
      So you think it will be Hill? If so, that would sort of kill the idea of Bridgewater being the best backup in the NFL, no?
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #48
        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
        100% true. But again, Hill can play QB and also contributes in many ways. My only point is that we had a backup and we let him go to keep other crappy backups. I would feel every bit as confident with Hill as I would with Kizer or Boyle. I would of course not want Hill starting 12 games.
        They did. But two sets of pretty good coaches have concluded that Hill's best chance of helping the team is not as a #1 QB, not as a #2 QB, but as gadget guy.

        Could he help at #3? Sure. But that is one less roster spot for Kevin King to be injured in.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          They did. But two sets of pretty good coaches have concluded that Hill's best chance of helping the team is not as a #1 QB, not as a #2 QB, but as gadget guy.

          Could he help at #3? Sure. But that is one less roster spot for Kevin King to be injured in.
          One of those 2 "good coaches" is a shitty coach. I think that will become more obvious this year and even more obvious if someone is dumb enough to give him the reigns again.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            One of those 2 "good coaches" is a shitty coach. I think that will become more obvious this year and even more obvious if someone is dumb enough to give him the reigns again.
            No, I don't think he is bad. His offense is worn out and needs some new blood. But he held the team together well and worked with very good people, especially on offense. He'll put another team back on its feet again. Problem is, he needs a QB. He really would have been OK for the Jets and Darnold.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #51
              Bill Huber
              Preseason NFL passer rating leaders:
              1. Hundley.
              2. Boyle.
              3. Taysom Hill
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                No, I don't think he is bad. His offense is worn out and needs some new blood. But he held the team together well and worked with very good people, especially on offense. He'll put another team back on its feet again. Problem is, he needs a QB. He really would have been OK for the Jets and Darnold.
                This is damning with faint praise. He's five years past washed up. Some desperate team may offer him for name recognition (as rumors were this offseason AZ did). However, I don't think he's a coach again in the league and if he is, he'll be exposed rather quickly. We'll see.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by esoxx View Post
                  This is damning with faint praise. He's five years past washed up. Some desperate team may offer him for name recognition (as rumors were this offseason AZ did). However, I don't think he's a coach again in the league and if he is, he'll be exposed rather quickly. We'll see.
                  It will be an intresting test. I have my doubts, but I am not sure he's not still better than half the coaches out there. Depends on how much he wants to chase success again. He could live pretty well in GB on his two big contracts.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    No, I don't think he is bad. His offense is worn out and needs some new blood. But he held the team together well and worked with very good people, especially on offense. He'll put another team back on its feet again. Problem is, he needs a QB. He really would have been OK for the Jets and Darnold.
                    I think TT was a brilliant GM who had one bad draft and some bad injury luck (could that be due to a bad coach running a bad camp). MM won some games with some superior talent. If he were with the Jets he would be really happy that LeVeon Bell is a good pass blocker because that would be his main role.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Bill Huber
                      Preseason NFL passer rating leaders:
                      1. Hundley.
                      2. Boyle.
                      3. Taysom Hill
                      I know you're point is that its preseason and it means nothing, but do you actually think you are proving a point that they suck BECAUSE they have been the best on field performers this preseason?
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                        I know you're point is that its preseason and it means nothing, but do you actually think you are proving a point that they suck BECAUSE they have been the best on field performers this preseason?
                        The point is that it doesn’t really tell you much.
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                          I know you're point is that its preseason and it means nothing, but do you actually think you are proving a point that they suck BECAUSE they have been the best on field performers this preseason?
                          Actually no point but for the fun of the names on the list.

                          Had I been making a point, it might have been:

                          1. Kizer hasn't quite been a catastrophe (though I don't trust him)
                          2. Boyle might be a step better (but he needs more than one game against the second stringers to prove it to me)
                          3. Hill does make plays though its always against the backups because no one seems to trust him
                          4. Passer rating is a terrible metric except that we have a rich dataset of it
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Bill Huber
                            Preseason NFL passer rating leaders:
                            1. Hundley.
                            2. Boyle.
                            3. Taysom Hill
                            I knew they should have kept Hundley!

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              I knew they should have kept Hundley!
                              Year too early again for the Pack.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Year too early again for the Pack.
                                Hundley is putting in a decent preseason. Now he is 35/54/408, 2 TDs, 0 interceptions, 2 sacks.
                                I guess it just goes to show that even with significant preseason exposure, the numbers can be deceiving.
                                Or, maybe, Huntley is coming around as a backup.

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